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<0> 1433?
<1> that sounds about right, or 1434
<0> ms sql is 1433
<0> 1434 and 1435
<0> well, server is 1433. sql monitor is 1434
<1> ms-sql-s 1433/tcp #Microsoft-SQL-Server
<1> ms-sql-s 1433/udp #Microsoft-SQL-Server
<1> ms-sql-m 1434/tcp #Microsoft-SQL-Monitor
<1> ms-sql-m 1434/udp #Microsoft-SQL-Monitor
<0> yeah :)
<1> services file tells all
<1> well, not all
<0> I only remember 1433 from recent firewall entry :)
<1> I remember 143x because of the slammer bull****
<2> i wonder what it uses UDP for
<3> h4x plz
<4> uhhmm
<4> how exactly do people develop exchange applications when all of the API DLLs for Exchange only function on the local exchange server?
<4> do they develop on the server?
<4> like install their IDE and everything there?
<4> I could use MAPI, but MAPI is 1) Slow 2) Inextricably tied to Outlook, meaning anything I possibly can do will trigger a security prompt.
<0> another server used only for staging
<4> annoying users
<4> well I mean
<4> what developer has money for a box that can run both Exchange and VS.NET at the same time?
<4> they both use tons of RAM
<5> what's that stupid site ytmdt.com or some ****?
<6> ytmnd
<5> danke
<7> hey does anyone know anything about DrawDibDraw() ??
<8> !info survey
<8> :(
<8> :)
<4> **SHAREPOINT QUESTION**
<4> digi around?
<9> Logan needs to be oust from his wife.
<4> oh 24 ?
<4> which episode are you watching
<9> I just saw 11.
<4> 11-12 ?
<4> oh dude
<4> it gets better
<9> No, 11. I think 5-6?
<4> oh
<9> Episode 11.
<4> yeah
<4> the 2 hour ?
<9> 1.
<9> The latest one.
<4> they did two hours monday
<9> Same episode?
<4> yeah 5-6 ****ing owns
<9> Where they were going to release the gas in the hospital?
<4> yeah
<9> Or is there a newer one?
<4> that episode rules
<4> don't miss a second
<9> Good to see Tony is back.
<6> is this the horny housewives show?
<4> seriously what's the answer to that question? How does one get the cash together to build a dev machine to build Exchange apps?
<4> Exchange needs tons of memory, as does VS.NET
<10> what?
<10> 2gb of memory is dirt cheap
<10> $160
<9> ECC.
<10> why bother
<1> if its for dev, its not mission critical since it isn't really hosting exchange
<4> I'm tired of this ****ing Exchange development reference book. "XML is much more than a simple markup language for Web pages." <-- uhh....that's not what XML is
<4> I'm tired of people interchanging that ****.
<4> HTML. which happens to be a simple markup language for Web pages, happens to be a FORM of XML
<4> just like httpd.conf is a FORM of XML
<4> and proftpd.conf
<1> well, httpd.conf is missing some angle brackets to be considered xml
<4> well
<4> <irc line of text> this is xml </irc line of text> . *INVALID* XML
<4> but XML notheless
<4> as far as I'm concerned
<4> there's tons of invalid HTML
<4> but people still call it HTML
<4> cause it has tags and is used for page markup
<4> I just can't stand how a lot of this **** I read people talk about XML as if it's one in the same as HTML and is totally web centric
<4> web-PAGE centric
<4> and that's not what XML is all about at all
<4> like this exchange dev book. They talk about using ADO, CDO, and MAPI to access the Exchange store. They also talk about accessing it "using XML".
<4> And they're all WEB PAGE apps
<1> oh sure, the use of XML with web services, and XHTML etc etc have muddied the waters
<1> does exchange do web services?
<4> at this point
<1> that's the only way I could see accessing the store "using XML"
<4> reading all this exchange developer information
<4> from the web and from these books
<4> I don't know what the **** Exchange does.
<4> the MSDN library has spotty reference
<4> with examples in the language of the day
<4> "here it is in VB6"
<4> "for developing in Exchange 2003"
<11> wdf man.
<0> exchange uses iis for web services
<12> wdgf
<1> so you can access the store "using XML", except you shouldn't need to care about that
<1> SOAP/XML should be abstracted away
<4> Jet: Exchange can provide data via HTTP using XML formatted datasets, however, I don't think it qualifies as a web service in the "soap" context or the .NET context of XML Web Services.
<13> hey all - anyone know how to use Adobe Illustrator to an Intermediate/advanced level?
<11> I do.
<13> cool :) - i am trying to place a jpeg object on my document... want to change the shape of the border that surrounds it...
<1> FKnight`: oh, well, then you'd use .net's xml parser to convert it to a dataset or something more easily manipulated
<4> like, I don't know what this chapter is talking about. They talk about accessing Exchange data as XML but then they talk about "rendering XML"
<4> so are they talking about data access
<4> or page formatting?
<1> well, you can render xml
<1> with css or xsl
<1> yourtag { font-weight: bold; }
<1> <yourtag>Something</yourtag>
<13> it sounds really basic, but I can't find anything to do with changing the border of an object eg.. rounded corners on placed jpegs
<4> see I don't know what that's all about. I'm expecting to pull XML formatted data into an application, do processing on it, and output the results somewhere.
<4> that somewhere is not necessarily a web page
<1> FKnight`: I can't speak on behalf of that book, I'm just saying, you can dump xml straight into a web browser and style it the way you want
<1> that _might_ be what they are talking about
<4> but this **** is written as if someone developing an exchange application has to have an implicit knowledge of web page design.
<1> although personally I can't see why you'd ever do that
<12> Scientists say men should drink 3 times as much beer as you do fruit juice. http://www.localnewsleader.com/elytimes/stories/index.php?action=fullnews&id=154677
<4> "Using XML Data Islands"
<4> God do I need drugs for this or what
<4> all I wanna do is search someone's mailbox for messages received before a certain threashold, pull the **** out, dump it to EML files somewhere, and leave shortcuts in the inbox.
<4> that's it
<4> and I can't even figure out how to do that without building an Exchange server and installing VS.NET on it, which will require, for both things, about 82 XB of RAM
<0> mmm costco roasted chicken. BURP
<4> btw
<4> Madonna is one of two women who exist who I would let put on a strap on and give me some backdoor.
<11> MmM.
<14> In accordance with Meghan's Law, we must notify you that greggdogg has entered the channel.
<15> Anyone have any ideas why PCanywhere would complain constantly when using a network share for files... "A sharing violation occurred while accessing P:\blahblah.chf" even when nothing else is using that file?
<15> 11.x seems to suffer where 10.5 doesn't at all
<4> no but I'm getting pretty ****ing tired of all my VNC'd workstations randomly changing their p***words.
<4> and anyone who tells me they've never seen that has only used one copy of VNC in their entire life on a single non domain machine at their house.
<15> haha
<15> i've never seen that :()
<4> yeah well, unlike most people, I live out here in the real world where software has bugs.
<15> heh
<15> i use it here at the office, and for all our customers
<15> never seen that :(
<15> seen plenty of bugs with vnc though
<4> if you sat in this channel all day and just watched how people respond to my complaints about software
<4> you'd think they had 100% reliable never down machines
<4> with bug free software
<15> hah
<15> i complain enough about windows :P
<15> no need to hear you do it too
<4> but jesus
<4> when VMWare Server went free three weeks ago
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