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<0> [monster cable is BS]
<1> about damn time z0g
<2> hey
<1> peerce: was why i was leery of the monster link you pasted ;P
<1> so what was wrong with apache?
<3> I've been told to use this for my sound from my PC to my TV.. http://www.memoryexpress.com/index.php?PageTag=&page=file&memx_menu=EmbedProductDetail.php&DisplayProductID=3271&SID=58893.. I will connect and the speaker cord to the splitter
<2> Aurelius: **** if i know. probably some complication of running apache on win32, though, i have never seen this before.
<4> z0g^g: logs say?
<2> Aurelius: however its been like almost a month since last reboot so, you know how Windows is.
<0> ryan101; or here's the same thing at radio shack.
<0> http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103865&cp=2032058.2032231.2032280&pg=2&allCount=252&fbn=Brand%2FRadioShack&f=Brand%2F1000094%2F&fbc=1&y=5&x=7&numProdsPerPage=20&parentPage=family
<0> except you rpobably want a longer one
<3> nah its right next ot it
<1> damn, all these big urls
<3> i don't need it to be long
<1> z0g^g: how is windows?
<2> Badtzmaru: Eh. Logs say a bunch of **** is breaking down. Whatever. I'm not going into deep analysis. **** always breaks under windows.
<3> So I shouldn't run into any problems in what I am trying to do, correct?
<5> Drunk. Hi.
<0> ryan101; your computer is within 6' of the TV?
<1> ryan101: you shouldn't, no
<3> eh.. it's gotta be a little bigger.. but it's pretty close ;p
<6> Hi, i'm having a problem with grub.... I used to dual boot XP and mandrake, and I got rid of mandrake, and now I'm left with a grub prompt at boot. how do I set it to boot to XP?
<4> z0g^g: my test box has run apache fine for a year now =P
<4> and my **** only broke when I had a HD fail
<4> so I dont believe that
<1> fdisk /mbr?
<2> Badtzmaru: I dont blame apache. not at all. Windows was acting kinda funky the past few days. it was time for a reboot anyway.
<2> Badtzmaru: like i was saying, its windows man.
<1> what's wrong with windows?
<6> i'm at a grub prompt, not a command prompt
<1> hah
<4> Dereck: so boot off something that will give you a command propmt, duh
<4> prompt even
<6> I may not be that lucky....
<2> ah **** off. jeez. cant you see im not blaming windows in particular at this problem, im blaming that this instance of windows hasnt been rebooted in several weeks.
<1> what are you on now?
<1> why would windows need to be rebooted so often?
<6> i'm on my mac right now
<4> Dereck: you should plan better next time then
<2> however we have linux boxes in heavy usage as workstations at the X console which wont be rebooted for a fiscal quarter..
<6> oh
<2> and usually only for a hardware upgrade
<0> Dereck; boot your XP CD, get into the recovery console, use FIXBOOT and FIXMBR
<6> good call
<0> !info recoveryxp
<1> z0g^g: i have a machine at the office... installed fbsd on it.. has had ONE reboot heh
<4> z0g^g: I havent rebooted anything in this apartment in months
<1> and that was after it was installed
<1> to start up on the actual system
<4> and I have a box running apache on it just to **** around
<4> is what Im saying
<2> windows just ****ing flips out sometimes
<4> not here =P
<1> almost one year since i installed it
<1> 9:35PM up 355 days, 12:41, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
<1> i should print that out when it hits 365, and show it to the guy who swears by NT based OS's (OSs)
<1> who has to reboot his **** about every other week, but other than that he says is the best OS
<2> windows has certain things that makes it excellent for the enterprise, such as central managability, GPOs, etc. but I wouldnt consider stability one of them
<4> what do you consider stability?
<1> I started working on a GPO like thing for *ix a long time ago
<1> before i'd ever heard of GPO that is
<4> we have an exchange server, file server and couple other internal boxes that are stable as hell
<1> i wanted a way to easily install and configure machines at this one place
<2> im not gonna argue. im just saying what i believe. i think windows server is pretty damn stable, but a a server that isnt used at the console at all, they still flip out (and on hp netservers, not some ****ty whitebox), where linux boxen built on whitebox tyan hardware will have higher uptimes
<1> and base their configuration off of some arbitrary things
<4> z0g^g: uptime means nothing to me
<4> give me reachability
<4> and our internal windows boxes are as good as our *nix boxes
<1> that machine i posted above is on a ****ty HP machine, doing our offsite backup system
<1> it's one of those old *** workstation HP's
<6> huh.. that's weird. I have my XP install cd, but it boots from grub first. blah
<1> Dereck: bios
<1> change the boot order
<0> the uptimes on my linux internet server are measured between major extended power outages which exceed my UPS capacity
<6> the boot order is fine
<0> # uptime
<0> 9:40pm up 72 days, 3:27, 2 users, load average: 0.05, 0.05, 0.00
<6> oh there we go
<1> peerce: :(
<7> hey would neone know why a coputer keeps loosing setting for hd and i have to clear cmose to get it back. cdroms and floppy are there but not hd. as soon as i clear cmose i can access the hd again
<0> bad battery, perhaps?
<0> flakey motherboard ?
<2> one good reason for that is that there are so many more services you can shut down, upgrade, and restart, hot, versus what you can on windows.
<7> is it not weird taht i only loose setting for hd and not nething else
<1> z0g^g: indeed
<1> filesharing tends to be mean like that
<1> err
<1> locking
<1> heh
<0> yeah, windows delayed .exe loading schema where they 'page' from the executable files makes updating running files impossible
<0> eagles34; if the system is off overnight, is the clock wrong when you boot up?
<2> some software ive bumped into is really crazy man. the Generic NQS system for *nix systems, you can upgrade its binaries, place it into an update directory, and once it sees that no jobs are queued, it updates itself.
<6> peerce, can you come back from away so I can PM you?
<2> nqs is some really crazy ****. software such as IBM's LoadLeveller uses it. but the generic version is a sourceforge project right now
<0> you can /msg anyone you want.... i redirect /msg -> /dev/null
<1> i didn't think windows had a /dev/null
<1> ;(
<2> cygwin?
<2> some purists hate it but i make sure i have a decently fat cygwin install on all my windows boxes.
<0> ok, NUL:
<1> for why?
<0> is that better? :D
<6> that hurts peerce
<1> yes peerce.
<0> I use cygwin a fair amount too.
<1> i'm placated
<1> for what?
<0> i even use its X.org port to drag up xwindows from our sun servers at work when I can't avoid it
<1> haha
<2> For one, i have a few dual-core dual-processor opteron systems which i like to run remote X sessions on
<2> cygwin/x is what they cygwin folks like to call it
<1> aren't there any decent windows based x terms?
<0> z0g^g; have you guys compared the dual dual cores against a quad single core ?
<2> its basically a free version of hummingbird, sorta.
<0> Aurelius; hummingbird, but its $$$$
<1> ah, ok
<2> peerce: quad core opteron?
<2> oh quad single core
<2> gotcha
<0> no, quad single core, like quad 850 or whatever
<1> though X is rarely required heh
<0> I hate going into the server room, its noisy and cramped
<6> the athlon k8 or k9 is a quadcore
<0> Oracle installs/updates require X :(
<0> athlons' *ARE* K8
<6> i new that.
<2> peerce: Well, the quad opteron tyan boards are like $1000, the dual S2895 is $500 with integrated u320 scsi. the price of the Opteron 275s just dropped. we dont think the quad is right just yet.
<6> knew
<0> even the old athlon pre-64
<6> then k9
<1> peerce: they require x?
<0> z0g^g; yeah, I'm just curious what the performance penalty of dual dualcore vs quad single core.
<1> we used to install oracle on suns without X
<0> with quad single core, you got twice as many memory channels
<0> Aurelius; not since at least oracle 8i, and certainly not 9i or 10g
<1> hrm
<1> we were installing 8i
<0> they got a nasty java based installer now
<1> and had no X on those 420's
<2> peerce: i dont doubt we will try that route considering that tyan's 4-way (actually 8-way with daughterboard) is available. we're starting to get heavily into CFD work which really makes great use of parallel processing
<2> and the 8-way is dual core compatible, making 16-way
<0> I'm gonna bet that will NOT scale very well.
<2> but at that point youre talkoing about a computer that costs more then a BMW 8-series
<0> meaning if it takes X time on a 2-way, its NOT going to be X/4 on a 8-way
<1> heh
<1> then add oracle for it
<1> and you'll be buying a few dozen 8-series
<2> peerce: with CFD software it does scale very well, we use Fluent which is designed to run m***ively multiprocessor, like SGI 128+ processor arrays
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