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<0> I use those programs a lot
<0> my issue is that the programs shouldn't be needed
<1> why? I hardly never have to diddle that ****.
<0> cuz if you install say, nero
<1> wtf do you do, install every piece of spyware infested freecumware you can find?
<0> a lot of times it will run something called "nero agent"
<0> to keep track of file extensions
<0> or "nero status"
<2> holy **** where the hell did i get this bizarro movie "ken park"?
<1> and Nero Agent has a menu option to disable itself.
<0> every piece of major software has about 18 things it wants to run on startup
<3> z0rg Walmart.
<0> yeah, but if you are installing a lot of software, sometimes it's easier to run a startup manager and disable it all at once
<0> then to try to poke around looking for the specific setting in an often ugly and obfuscated settings UI
<1> except those 'startup managers' usually leave things all ****ed up
<1> as the app itself was never told that its rug had been pulled.



<0> I agree with some windows conventions
<0> I think drive letters are better than the alternatives
<0> but there are a few things that really stink about it
<4> we just removed all drive letters
<4> well like 8 months ago
<0> huh?
<0> heh
<4> 100% DFS
<4> well DFS and webdav
<0> I dunno, whatever
<0> I like drive letters to be quite honest
<0> mounting paths and such, ****s
<4> they are confusing to end users
<5> To be honest.
<6> I used to love the way we could mount drives in novell for users :)
<6> I used to love novell period actually
<4> i like the way we have one dfs root for home folders and one for sharepoint
<4> sharepoint owns us
<4> even our roaming profiles are under DFS
<0> well I dunno, no point in finding common ground on the Internet argument circuit I guess
<0> once Mary is quite contrary she wants to stay that way
<6> hello XTR
<0> but the registry ****s either way
<3> I love you dude.
<4> well some of us work int he environment with several 100 users every day
<6> I lovs ya too.. how's tricks?
<4> so we look for the most effecient operations
<3> Tricks died. :(
<6> registry has it's pro's and cons
<6> XTR: silly rabbit
<4> winfs should fix most of the cons
<6> how's work?
<4> though thats a couple years away
<6> Is that the thing that won't be out in vista now :)
<0> I honestly think, for example
<3> Work takes up 90% of me time these days.
<5> Think anyones going to school.
<4> yes
<6> still at the same place X?
<0> that a program should have to get permission from the person running it to write to certain areas of the registry
<3> Magic*** When you moving to Vancouver?
<6> digidog: think I was reading up on that a couple of days ago on some beta vista site
<0> windows itself could pop up and warn you
<4> yes buck
<3> MagicA No, some Web Hosting company downtown.
<6> XTR: god only knows bud.. I'm pretty much stuck out here for now
<4> thats the point of limited user account access
<3> :(
<6> thankfully they are doing that a bit more in vista
<6> XTR: not forever hopefully
<0> hopefully they fix non-admin users in vista
<3> Better not be forever.
<4> i dont know what the problem is
<6> BuckWild: supposedly
<0> cuz I tried to setup a stupid account for my brother to use so he wouldn't **** anything up, and I'll tell you, it just makes the OS nearly unusable in a lot of ways
<6> XTR: got a couple of video projects coming up this summer.. see how that goes.
<4> then you set it up incorrectly
<0> not that Linux is any better with it's constant running **** as root crap
<4> the only time that will cause an issue is when the app is old and doesnt take advantage of ntfs recognition
<0> digidog, there's a lot of old =P



<4> and people shouldn't use it
<4> there's a lot of new
<0> I dunno
<0> I gotta go to bed either way tho
<6> I hope MS puts more effort into security
<0> later
<4> i think they have done a fine job in the past year
<6> by default it is the most targeted OS there is
<4> by default its the most used
<6> yep that's why
<4> and yet, the other day i had a client taking down out external interface due to an owned apache process
<6> I want to see how their anti-malware app works in vista
<6> I've totally stopped using IE now..
<4> i cant
<4> we use sharepoint quite a bit
<4> although sharepoint v3 will be totally ajax
<3> Magic*** Sweet, you're still into video,
<6> XTR: yep :)
<4> video!
<6> :)
<6> been checking out the new features in premiere pro 2
<4> too bad digital video was in its infancy at the time
<4> amiga toaster was all the rage
<6> catching back up with final cut finally
<6> yeah a buddy of mine had a toaster
<4> and avid was brand new
<6> I had an amiga when I first came on internet :)
<4> funny story
<4> i used to work for CBS
<1> oh god. remember my bitch about XML-RPC? so we're trying to get those bozos to switch to SOMETHING more efficient, our middleware guys proposed a simple http get/put based interface.. so they came back to us with this long winded content free proposal which talked about "REST" and RESTful. so I google it up. what a PILE of smoke and mirrors THAT is.
<3> I miss warzing with Magic***.
<4> dude, peerce
<4> tell them to look up xml-rpc security
<4> its a horrible technolgy
<4> a good example of how XML should NOT be used
<6> XTR: all torrents nowadays :)
<1> we're not real concerned with security at present.
<3> Yes.
<4> its bloated
<4> its dumb
<4> its not how xml should be used
<1> are you kidding? the factory folks have 1000s of windows PCs with lame p***words and no active directory
<6> course I hack the servers so my ratio stays nice and high.. that's the spirit right? hee hee
<4> yeah but running xml-rpc to an internet connected box - owned
<4> =
<1> anyways, REST turns out to be chapter 5 from this wonderous bit of PhD obfuscation-err-disseration... http://www.ics.uci.edu/~fielding/pubs/dissertation/top.htm
<6> active directory.. something else swiped from Novell :)
<1> and its nearly content free.
<4> hey now :)
<4> banyan vines!
<1> this isn't internet connected, its our factory floor.
<4> i know
<4> but my point is valid
<5> Is the owner of nes here?
<6> nes: huh?
<3> nes I'm here.
<1> This chapter introduces and elaborates the Representational State Transfer (REST) architectural style for distributed hypermedia systems, describing the software engineering principles guiding REST and the interaction constraints chosen to retain those principles, while contrasting them to the constraints of other architectural styles.
<5> MagicA: *** yourself up, because you are gonna buy a samsung get those ones that were made for xbox.
<1> hahahah, does that say *ANYTHING* ?
<5> XTR: Drop the **** |steve| its useless and you honestly have yet to make one valid statement for the time you have been here.
<3> omg.
<7> peerce it said some ****er had some ****ty *** english teachers through college
<6> ummm eh?
<3> It's teh bot on acid.
<1> The design rationale behind the Web architecture can be described by an architectural style consisting of the set of constraints applied to elements within the architecture. By examining the impact of each constraint as it is added to the evolving style, we can identify the properties induced by the Web's constraints. Additional constraints can then be applied to form a new architectural style that better reflects the desired properties of a modern Web arch
<7> In this paper I will introduce a topic and then follow it with supporting details. And thus begins my paper.
<4> the end
<1> this is chapter FIVE of his paper.
<1> and apparently there's a whole bunch of folks worshipping this **** like its the new coming.
<6> thus :)
<1> they call themselves RESTafarians!
<1> no ****
<6> ahahahha


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