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<0> there are several, but I think they charge money now
<0> I think dialpad is still around too, someone told me they used them a few months ago
<1> i guess when anythign is free is in beta
<1> :P
<1> dp and yahoo merged
<0> heh, just goes to show you how big Yahoo is, I'm a Yahoo user and I heard nothing about it :P
<0> speaking of ways to mop up after an infection, I need a new safe-installer program
<0> I used to use Arkosoft System Snapshot and Iolo System Mechanic, which work great, except that nowadays they crash whenever they try reading the registry.
<2> any web people here?
<2> design that is
<0> i used to do web design, in 1999
<0> i can tell you right now, i don't bother with css, i won't install flash, and i avoid java applets whenever possible
<0> but maybe i can help :)
<3> nikkie: .net or what?
<3> brb cig brk
<3> damn, out



<3> damn, i've got way too many damn rss feeds
<3> sheesh.
<2> sorry u still there deryl?
<3> yes
<3> updating my feeds. (little over 1000 to update, taking some time)
<2> :P
<2> ill put the page back online on the old server
<3> what are you using? LAMP? IIS+DotNet? WIMP?
<2> server 2003
<2> on iis
<2> www.avtronics.com/clientaudio.htm
<3> sec
<2> he has something calling at the top <%
<2> the forms wont load
<3> because he doesn't have the correct Page entry
<2> ?
<3> sec. that .net2 or net1.1?
<2> it loads fine on the old server... thats the new server
<2> not sure.. where would i check
<3> under IIS and the AppPool for that site
<3> or more accurately the AppPool the site is in. if there are no other pools than the default pool, then check the pool itself and see which it's using
<2> he made an apppool for the site
<2> called avtronics
<3> he has an incorrect page header from what I can see with the source
<3> ok
<2> it branches into 2 files Avtronics and files
<3> <%@ Page Language="VB" AutoEventWireup="false" CodeFile="Default.aspx.vb" Inherits="_Default" %>
<3> that's a proper header
<3> crap, I got up earlier to get coffee, pot was empty, I sat back down and forgot about putting on a fresh one.
<3> gimme a few. I need to start a fresh pot
<2> ok
<2> when u get back.. refresh... thats how it looks on the old server
<2> i just cant seem to get it to load on the new one
<3> give me the top 20 lines of that page in pastebin.com
<3> the one that's broken on the new server
<2> ok
<2> http
<2> er
<2> http://pastebin.com/647591
<2> that pastebin thng is cute
<2> :D
<3> hehe. yeah it is
<3> i'm really lagged here. got SERIOUS bw usage goin on
<3> bear with me
<3> how in the **** is that page working on ANY server at ALL?
<2> lol
<2> i thnk he was learning as he went type deal
<3> there's no end to the <head> no <body>, nothing
<2> he bandaged everything
<3> the entire basic structure is broke****
<2> haha
<3> yeah i see that ;P
<3> i couldn't tell you how to make that work without a rewrite
<2> hmm
<3> i am totally baffled how he got it to work (if that is indeed the exact source) at ALL
<2> did u see how it should look?
<3> is that page being pulled into another page?
<2> ill pop it up ther
<2> no
<2> http://www.avtronics.com/clientaudio.htm



<2> ther refresh
<3> sec
<2> i got the database installed.. its just not calling the forms to get into the db
<3> ok, so you opened the page in notepad or something and showed me the exact source correct? that's not really just a partial source AFTER it's been SSI'd?
<2> want me to send u the .htm file?
<2> or paste the whole file on pastebin?
<2> u just mentioned 20 or so lines
<3> no that's fine I just need to know if that's the eaxct source as it sits on the drive or if that's what shows up after the server does something to it
<2> http://pastebin.com/647604
<3> cause then that'd explain the chunking (bad code file generated that's sent to the client)
<2> thats the exact source from the hd
<3> 2 different things, 2 different possibilities as to the problem is why i'm so keen on asking
<3> sec
<2> :P
<3> oh happy happy joy joy
<3> hehe i'm doing that myself.
<2> :P
<3> sec. (no promises) I'm pulling it into an html editor
<2> ok
<3> hrmm, well it works here in html-kit after I ran tidy on it
<3> gimme a bit. not ignoring you, just trying to peice through
<2> np take ur time cuz im gettn desperate
<2> :P
<2> im chekin out html kit
<2> u know all the goodies
<2> :P
<3> hehe
<3> ok, i'm really at a loss here, or than he's mixing javascript with vb and it looks to the editor like it's misreading the vb sections
<3> the <% areas
<2> humm
<2> i just have something setup differently on the new server im guessing
<2> cuz it works on the old one fine
<2> would the apppool be a problem?
<2> cuz i dont have an avtronics one on the new server
<3> yeah i'd go back over it. cause other than the area i pointed out as being wrong to me i don't see anything else
<3> what version of .net is it running?
<2> i dont see the version anywhere
<3> i'm taking this that it's .net specifics + javascript
<2> where in the iis do i find it
<3> sec. lemme log into my servere and see
<3> guh, this system and it's permissions crap.
<2> would it have anything to do with anonymous user and p***word being set properly?
<3> iis should handle that
<4> a repair xp instation fixes IE problems, i'm guessing it replaces IE
<2> ya i see it set it but they anonusr's arent in the users section
<3> ok, open IIS mmc, then drill down til you get to the Websites directory in the left pane
<2> like they are in the old server
<3> then right click and select properties
<3> on the resulting tabbed dialog that pops up, click on ASP.NET tab
<3> first line under the .net logo will be ASP.NET Version
<3> see what it says
<2> k new server is 1.1.4322
<2> lemme chek old
<3> and the old?
<3> ok
<2> god hes running the server on a 1.0 ghz with 512 ram
<2> gimmie a min :P
<3> also, do the same thing on the site itself in the left pane. check that
<3> then check the versions against the app pool
<2> ok
<3> hehe nikkie I run windows 2003 server enterprise on a celeron 700 + 512MB RAM
<2> =O
<3> runs absolutely great! well once i increased the worker thread timeout
<2> ok old server doesnt have the asp.net tab under web sites
<2> nor under the actual web site dir neither
<2> *confused*
<3> err?
<4> what are the best anti-spyware/malware programs?
<4> is MCafee antispyware any good?
<4> i'm still amazed that the original antispyware: AdAware. doesn't offer auto-protect options, it just scans...
<4> don't they have to keep up with the others by offering some always on protect feature?


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