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<0> and it will take a serious pay raise for me to get one
<0> heh
<1> Badtz, the only reason i have one is to be able to call clients without needing to call the office for numbers
<2> being able to browse the web on the go is very useful, i use that the most.
<0> thats what a phone book is for =P
<1> but you aren't out and about, so yeah, it's kinda pointless
<1> lol badtz
<1> zog, last time i looked my blackberry had a webrowser
<1> and irc
<2> when you shut off image downloading in Blazer, then web browsing in Blazer on Edge networks is actually bearable.
<3> i use google SMS for that ****
<0> ugh
<3> but blackberry ****s because of its device support
<3> good supports like 25 devices
<0> I find web+ IRC way too damn slow on a berry
<3> blackberry is proprietary
<1> what do you mean by device support
<1> badtz, it's slow as ****
<3> phones/pda's
<1> but it's still there ;)
<0> then again
<2> upIRC on palmos is *fast*. the response time is instantaneous.
<0> NOC is staffed 24/7
<1> uh....blackberry ****s because it doesn't support other devices?
<0> people can call me if something is broke
<1> wtf are you talking about
<3> well thats not the only reason
<3> there are several
<0> berry has lots of issues
<1> like the treo supports the palm 700w digi
<1> wtf are you talking about
<2> i was using upIRC to chat on here during the aftermath of the hurricanes, when there was no power anywhere.
<3> what the **** are you talking about dude?
<0> but I havent used anythingelse to compare and contrsast
<4> blackberry w/BES r0x0rs end of story
<1> i don't understand what you mean by "blackberries' don't support other devices"
<0> Pfft: we have berry+BEs
<3> http://www.good.com/index.php/products_platforms_devices.html
<0> still has issues
<3> http://www.good.com/index.php/products_pocketpc.html
<0> guess it kind of depends on usage though
<4> everything has issues ... but .. what issues? we don't have any major/frequent/major snags at all
<1> digi, it's called BES
<4> ooops major^2 hehe
<0> yeah, thats wht I said I havent used anything else to compare and contrast
<3> everyone i know who has switched from BES to good hates it
<3> er
<3> fromg ood to BES
<1> that's like bitching that windows backup doesn't support linux
<0> so I dont know how good/bad it is compared to *
<1> you're a crackhead
<4> ah
<3> its not my fault you are confused :)
<1> digi, because they can't watch porn
<3> no
<3> because it doesnt have NEAR the same level of exchange integration
<1> by default, they have to change devices to do that
<1> HAVE to
<0> heh
<1> as you just mentioned
<0> I wonder does anyone else make a good voip handheld now a days
<1> treo's are for bored executrons that need to feel important
<4> oh that's ****ing nice
<1> blackberries are for people that actually do business
<3> dudwe
<4> the vpn applet the ssl vpn is handing out .. its cert expired a few days ago
<3> im telling you
<3> biz people who move to good from bes like it a lot more
<2> DrunkCow: i dunno. i think those uber-expensive iMate smartphones are for the executrons.
<4> this is sounding an awful lot like a religous OS conversation
<4> :-)
<0> heh
<1> z0g^g, many pdaphones are for executrons
<4> so like
<1> don't get me wrong guys
<1> i hate my blackberry
<4> drunkcow: digi doesn't agree
<1> but it ****s less then a treo
<4> digi: drunkcow doesn't agree
<4> mm'kay? ;-)
<0> I dont know firsthand, but from talking with people digi is right
<4> i had a treo for a week - never again :-)
<2> i speficially purchased my smartphone with my own money, and i specifically say its my ****ing playtoy. i refuse to use it for business.
<1> no pfft we must fight to teh death
<3> well im not sure how we got on the treo discussion
<3> my point is that BES is inflexible, goodlink is flexible
<1> z0g^g, that's cool, cause they are toys =)
<1> digidog, that's true
<3> ask Fk about BES
<4> i dont have time to **** around with a palm pilot toy/tinkerfest - i just want mail/web/fone w/my blackberry
<4> fk hates everything
<4> :0
<1> heh digi i have 4 clients running BES
<3> pfft, what about people who dont want to lug around a large phone?
<1> and i, in fact, have BES installed on our DC
<4> large phone?
<3> or people who want to do work orders through public folder custom forms?
<1> there is a reason my blackberry isn't connected to it
<4> have you seen 71xx series blackberries?
<3> or whatever
<0> my biggest problem with BES is random "lets stop working" issues
<4> well .. ok, if they want to do work orders through a public folder erm .. they probably need more beef than a phone IMO
<3> pfft, its not as small as this
<3> http://www.good.com/index.php/products_motorolampx220.html
<0> which needs a reboot on the berry
<1> a lot of those can be fixed badtz, there are some wierd settings
<1> and specific firmware issues
<4> sure, its not as small as an m&m either :)
<0> DrunkCow: we've been dealing for a year
<4> but its not a big phone :-)
<1> yeah
<3> my point is
<0> a lot of them dont have fixes
<4> badtz - wonky .. we don't see that
<3> choice is good
<1> digi, good luck writing an email on that
<4> choice rocks :)
<0> it might just be our berry version, the voip one isnt that popular
<3> buy whatever phone or PDA you want
<1> or "doing a work order through a public folder"
<3> we'll still deliver email and groupware to it
<4> we chose blackberry :-)
<3> thats my point
<1> Badtz, berry carrier?
<4> and we don't have to support every ridiculous PDA our staff wants to foist on us :-)
<0> DrunkCow: we are.
<3> we dont support the PDA's
<1> no, lol
<1> what provider
<0> we are.
<4> really
<1> rawr?
<0> its voip
<1> so they only work inside the building
<4> you have a VP or exec come to you with their broken treo 99273 and you don't help them?
<0> yes
<4> ehehe
<1> hah that's ****ed up
<0> connects to our wireless
<3> if its truely broken, we have a department that sends it back for replacement
<0> etc etc
<1> the fat ones or what?
<0> yeah
<1> 5xxx
<0> dunno model
<1> try firmware 4.0.3
<1> .xxx
<0> as far as I know there is only 1 voip model
<0> we have newest firmware
<0> we have tried beta firmwares
<3> i lvoe my phone
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