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<0> Well, the 5 years started like 6 or 7 years ago.
<1> yeah :(
<2> who wants to do my research paper final draft for $100, i already have the rough draft
<1> I feel siked a little this year though
<1> I'm hoping there will be a chance for a Libertarian in '08
<1> like a real chance
<0> I'm feeling completely hopeless at this point. But I will vote Libertarian across the board in 08.
<3> hahahaha
<0> Bush's re-election put a damper on the notion that there's a chance to me.
<4> a chance to me?
<1> Bush will run in '08
<4> oh
<4> i see
<1> :D
<2> any takers for the essay?
<4> coheed is still here?
<1> I bet Jeb runs
<0> Commie family robinson.
<4> !google pinko
<5> http://www.pinko.it/
<1> Bin Laden would prolly get third place though if it were Democrat, Republican, Bin Laden, and Libertarian in '08
<0> Yeah.
<0> People are so dumb.
<4> i think its the whole drug thing that kills the libertarian agenda
<1> but see
<0> Maybe. But no libertarian is going to back down from it.
<1> the drug laws are integral
<6> Woot. Someone went over my bid for an "as is" motherboard, following me go crazy and bid $75 (I hadn't noticed the "as is"). Out from under that*, whew.
<1> our freedoms are gone mostly from the drug war
<1> and our safety
<1> and our economy
<1> I have to worry about some ****er breaking into my house and killing me and my g/f so he can get crack cocaine.
<1> because of drug laws.
<4> i would shoot that person
<1> that's not the point
<2> anyone read the book "silas marner"?
<7> years ago.
<4> however FK, the same thing has been said about illegal immigration
<4> if we just expand the border and absorb mexico, the problem wouldnt be a problem
<1> I agree with opening the borders too ::D
<4> to me that's avoidance not solutions
<4> the drug problem will always be a problem
<1> to me it's about who owns my body dude
<4> its been a problem for exactly as long as drugs have been manufactured
<1> if I can't smoke pot
<1> who owns my body?
<0> J. Edgar Hoover does, mother****er.
<7> i'm going to just pretend i didn't see that msg.
<1> If I can't put drugs into my own body because of laws, it should be apparent why the drug war is an essential subject when discussing freedom
<1> because if I don't own my /own body/, then how can I have any freedoms?
<4> well you can't do a lot of things to your body
<4> legally
<0> digi: That's his point.
<1> Just because there are other stupid laws doesn't make one stupid law ok.
<4> because those actions don't always just affect you
<0> Yeah it does.
<1> How exactly does planting a seed, letting it grow, cutting it, and smoking it, affect anyone else?
<4> if that's all anyone does.. fine
<4> but that's not all
<4> and that not always the path
<1> Ok
<1> How exactly does manufacturing coke in my house and snorting it affect anyone else?
<0> You mean there's optional intermediary steps that effect other people?
<1> The only reason drug use affects other people is because there are laws that create a black market.
<4> you really don't think a society able to do that legally is a harmless action?
<0> Hmm?
<1> How does someone else doing drugs harm me?
<4> so while you are snorting coke legally in your house develoiping an addiction and your 5 year old child is watching you
<1> ok so you're making ***umptions about people
<0> FK: I didn't know you had a kid.
<1> you know people drink in front of their 5 year old right?
<4> no, im talking about what happens in reality that has nothing to do with the legallity or laws
<4> yup, but that isnt the point
<4> just because there is one drug that is legal, that makes it ok to legalize all drugs?
<1> no.
<1> The fact that it's my body makes it ok.
<0> And FYI, there's already child endangerment laws. Adding drug laws doesn't improve the situation in any kind of manner.
<8> Just look at the Wiggles.
<0> The whattles?
<1> The reason I brought up alcohol is because you said it would be bad for kids to see their parent snorting coke. Sure that would be bad. But by that logic, there are a lot of other things that should be illegal.
<8> Didn't they take the US by storm?
<0> You must be thinking of Katrina.
<8> Maybe.
<4> i was bringing up one example of where a nation legally allowed to partake in coccaine and herion and other extremely addictive substances, isn't always self-debilitating
<8> http://www.thewiggles.com.au/
<4> just
<3> dov
<3> they are smokin the dope
<3> for sure
<8> Agreed.
<3> also
<3> purple dude == child molestor
<8> No one can be that happy.
<0> They look like the Monkees.
<9> MUNKIES
<1> Do you think people that don't do drugs now will start doing them if it's legal? Do you think that the laws keep people from doing drugs?
<4> yes i do, to some degree
<8> Cost, for one.
<4> i know a lot of people addicted to xanax because it's legal
<1> This is only my opinion, not based on anything, but I really think that that degree is very small.
<4> not opium
<4> if opium was legal, that story might change
<1> that's the trick though man
<1> they don't do xanax vs. opium because xanax is legal
<1> it's because they can GET xanax
<1> you CAN'T get opium
<4> wait now
<1> because it's ilegal
<4> sure they can
<4> if they REALLY want to
<7> it may be legal but it's controlled. that's abuse based on negligence.
<4> but they dont
<4> because of the h***le.. and the h***le exists because it is illegal
<1> that's exactly what I'm saying
<4> btw
<4> i love opium
<1> but they're using SOMETHING
<1> whether it's legal or not
<4> ok
<4> but
<0> That's it. I've been trying to upload this pic for an hour. I give up.
<10> try using XP
<10> <hides>
<4> there are obviously degrees of drug interactions. ephidrine vs. coccaine
<10> just alcohol vs. cocaine
<4> cocaine is ****ing evil
<4> EVIL
<10> downers vs. uppers
<1> not as evil as crack, which was created as a response to the drug war.
<10> i learned in dare how to take drugs
<1> before the drug war, there was no crack
<4> im actually glad cocaine is illegal.. i would probably be dead.. or at the very least unemployed and homeless by now if it wasnt
<4> i love cocaine
<4> at least until the 16th hour
<10> it's good
<1> you wouldn't be homeless or unemployed. If cocaine was legal, you could buy it on a Mcdonalds drive-through wage.
<4> fk
<4> i would miss so much work
<4> as many would
<1> I dunno man :D I specifically go to work so that I can get money to buy pot :D
<4> ah
<4> pot totally different
<1> but pot's supposed to make you unmotivated!
<4> pot doesn't make your body all ****ed up for 2 days after a binger
<4> well now we are changing points :)
<1> alcohol does though :D
<4> cocaine is worse
<4> who does cocaine all night without drinking? :)
<8> Whatever happened to the research that went into medication that you would begin as an infant, and it would numb the effects of such substances in later years?
<1> but dude, you have to admit that /for the most part/, the people doing cocaine after it's made legal will be the same people smoking it now.
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