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<0> but dude, you have to admit that /for the most part/, the people doing cocaine after it's made legal will be the same people smoking it now.
<0> *snorting it
<1> i have no idea
<1> that's an expirment
<0> it's not like people are goin
<0> "OMFG"
<0> "IT'S LEGAL NOW"
<0> "Let's all go out and do some lines!"
<1> well how are drugs introduced?
<0> digidog: in DARE :D
<2> I'm going to sleep. Here's my pics from the Arboretum for those that didn't see them.
<0> hahahahahahah
<2> http://community.webshots.com/album/549139234kgIDLH
<1> by societal events.. one person that doesnt do it now would be more likely to do it if his friends do it
<0> hmm
<1> im hot



<0> I can see that
<0> I just don't see it as any different than anything else though.
<1> you should see me with my clothes off
<0> It's my body
<1> oh
<1> same with seatbelt laws fk
<1> but dying is expensive
<0> and that's the main thing man .. it's the basis of all of our freedoms. If I'm not free to put into my body what I want, then I must not own my own body. In that case, who does?
<2> And inconvenient. ****s up your schedule.
<1> i dont follow that logic
<1> no one ever said "lets legislate drug laws to own other peoples bodies"
<1> there was a problem
<0> I don't care why they did it
<0> I wasn't there
<0> I was born into a police state
<0> I don't think they're sitting there saying that either
<1> i mean
<1> amsterdam still has a large drug problem
<0> I think the drug laws are just a result of ignorance by most people
<0> Amsterdam has a drug problem because ****ers from here are going over there, getting high, and acting all stupid
<1> no
<1> they still have a black market
<1> they still have illegal traffiking
<1> they still have a huge problem with addictions
<0> if they still have illegal trafficking, then it must not be legal :D
<2> I thought exceeding the speed limit was illegal trafficking.
<3> groan.
<1> the homeless in amsterdam are much more likely to become a further nuisence
<1> so now they do drugs legally, but they steal to get the money
<1> same as here
<0> well you said there was still a black market
<1> there is
<0> as long as there's a black market, prices on those items will be high
<1> there will always be a black market
<0> DO you think it's responsible to make something which is professed to be so addictive illegal?
<1> not for pot
<1> black market that is
<1> do i think its responsible?
<1> umm
<1> sure?
<0> Cause the thought process is like this:
<0> 1) Drugs are highly addictive. Everyone's gonna want them. huge demand. So addictive, it can't be stopped
<1> but there are other non mitigating factors as well
<0> 2) Create Black market
<0> 3) Make prices impossibly high
<1> anything that is government controled will result in a public demand for a black market
<1> doesnt matter what it is
<1> alcohol, guns, drugs
<0> That's what I'm saying
<0> black markets are bad though
<0> That's where all the drug violence comes from
<3> there's no black market for ***holes, and the government seems to have that market cornered.
<1> i dont see many of the drug addicts today (again, not pot) learning how to manufacture cocaine themselves
<0> ok
<0> in that case, let's take it out of self manufacturing in your house
<0> What's wrong with a pharmacy selling cocaine?
<1> is it government controlled?
<0> no
<1> so
<1> codiene is, but no cocaine?
<1> not



<1> no FDA?
<0> I'm sorry I didn't clarify
<0> What would be wrong with selling Cocaine at GNC
<1> well they would certainly have to up there premises security across the board :)
<0> not if it was legal
<1> huh?
<0> well
<0> if cocaine is legal
<0> it's cheap
<0> you go buy it
<0> you don't have to steal it
<0> or steal for it
<1> alcohol is cheap and legal, doesn't keep people from begging, borowing and stealing to obtain it
<1> and cocaine would have a worse affect
<0> ok
<0> since you brought it up
<0> should alcohol be illegal ?
<0> or govt. controlled
<1> it was once, and that didnt work
<0> for the same reason this **** with the drugs isn't working
<0> the exact same reason
<1> right but the answer isnt make it legal and unctrolled across the board
<0> no, I think it is.
<0> hehehe
<1> if it was
<1> some country by now would have done it
<0> Because the basis of your premis is 1) That if drugs were legal, there would be a run on drugs and everyone will be walking around stoned and begging for money to buy drugs . 2) That legal drugs woudn't reduce the price enough to drop the crime rate
<1> my premis is a bit more involved than that, because the issue has more angles than breaking it down that way
<0> I think the price would drop, crime would drop, and the same amount of people doing drugs now will be doing them then.
<1> drugs affect peoples behaviour, and different drugs affect them differently, some worse than others
<1> so if its not controlled where does it end? super cocaine? people dropping.. lawsuits
<1> it's a chain effect
<3> heh, i can't wait for the first wave of lawsuits from legalized drug use.
<0> I would imagine that if companies had a profit motive, they would realize that it's not a good idea to kill your customers, so they would make sure that their products were pure and of correct dosages so as to make sure quality is a selling point.
<1> companies dont care about killing their customers
<1> the first time :)
<0> Well, if you're gonna bring that up
<0> then we should make everything every company does illegal
<0> because companies get sued all the time
<1> right
<1> and it clogs the courts
<1> but id o think more people would use them
<0> and pot smokers are clogging our jails
<1> i would be one
<1> ok
<1> didnt we decide our conversation would be sans pot?
<0> coke snorters are clogging our jails
<1> im not against pot legalization
<1> **** yes they are
<1> meth, coke, whatever
<1> lets make meth legal
<1> man
<1> woo
<1> i dont want to live there
<1> people will be blowing up all kinds of ****
<0> the bottom line is, I can 1) Be shot because someone needs to steal my LCD monitor so they can get one hit of crack, and 2) Be thrown in jail and raped if I grow a plant.
<1> well 2 is a bit different than 1
<0> no it's not
<1> oh sure it is
<1> unless you are putting pot on the same platter as crack
<4> my keyboards acting weird..can somoen ehlp me? i switched my keyboard
<0> I'm not
<0> the LAW is
<4> it works fine for few mins
<0> I can be put in jail and raped for growing a plant.
<1> dude, i've had the cops come in my house with bud all over the place and never taken in for it.. crack on the other hand
<0> I don't care about you.
<4> is itcool to smoke?
<0> I see people speeding all the time
<0> who don't get caught
<0> I will
<1> heh
<1> ok
<0> I have to have a shot gun here because cocaine costs $300 a night on the street


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