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<0> a gf2 would be kind of a different decision
<0> i would put a fan on it
<0> plus a heatsin
<0> you don't have to get a very large one
<0> i think the gf2 fans are about 1.5" ish
<0> for the ones that have a fan in the first place
<1> i measured one side of the heatsink
<1> it was like 56-58mm
<0> neil if you put a fan on there you can always overclock it a little bit -- plus you can get one of those adjustable fans with a heat sensor in it as a resistor
<1> so... i dunno if that's a 60mm fan
<1> or a 50
<1> because the fan itself is obviously a little smaller than the heatsink since it's circumscribed inside it
<0> do you have the old one?
<1> ya
<0> just find a fan that will mount on it
<0> take the fan to your local (frys?)



<1> well it's still spinning..just very slowly
<1> hehe
<0> ahh
<1> i wonder if i could just take it off
<0> maybe you need to fix it
<1> esp since i don't play any games
<0> depending on what kind of fan it is - -you might be able to put on a single (SINGLE) half drop of 1:3 oil on it
<0> brushless
<0> just make sur ethat there are no electrical terminations on it
<1> ya
<1> i don't think i have any oil on me
<0> i feel like formatting
<1> i know i've seen those heatsinks sold somewhere
<1> the oversized ones
<1> have a ghost image, sartan?
<1> makes it nice and easy
<0> no i don't do that
<0> but i should.
<0> next time forsure
<0> it's hard to get drivers that work properly for my laptop
<0> radeon software ****s.. badly
<0> i have to use hacked-up omega drivers
<1> http://www.3dcool.com/product_info.php?products_id=1476
<1> something like this would probably do the trick
<1> except i don't have clearance for it
<1> haha
<0> that's huge
<0> you don't need that for a gf2
<0> expect to get something less than .5" thick
<1> blah
<1> screw it
<1> i'll just wait for a new vid card
<1> for most new games out
<0> you can get an earlier model for pretty cheap
<1> if I have an XP2200 (1.8ghz) w/ 512mb of ram...if I just add a good vid card, will it hold up? (like a 6600)
<0> cpu is a little lacking
<1> or will the cpu limit it too much
<2> hold up for what?
<2> perfectly usable if you dont want to run games
<1> i mostly have my eyes on that Spore game coming out
<1> i don't really play games...but i might start w/ a good vid card
<0> just buy the card you can afford but your cpu will be your bottleneck
<2> most newer games want 2+ghz CPU's =/
<0> remmeber that the good cards are now pci-x
<1> 1.8 is pretty close
<0> or pci-e i mean
<0> 1.8 XP 2200 = hot and slow
<0> you want at the least a 3200
<1> eh i picked it about about a year ago when my old tbird 1.4 diedf
<1> i just wanted something basic at the time to hold me over
<1> (it was cheap)
<0> duron!
<0> barton!
<1> can't say I even notice a difference at all
<0> Athalon!
<0> that was my progression
<1> let's see
<1> 286->386/33->p-100-> k62-300 -> p2-400 -> athlon 650 -> athlon 1.4 -> xp2200
<1> hehe
<1> i stopped upgrading as much the older i got



<1> of course, anything after 1ghz didn't matter much when I stopped playing games
<0> increases aren't as exponential as they once were.
<3> you wont see much diff unless you're into heavy cpuing
<0> having a 486DX vs a 486DX2 was really a big deal
<1> the 386 -> p100 jump was the biggest for sure
<0> after 1.5 gigs they all sort of level out for day to day ****
<1> i wouldn't mind a small form factor for my next machine
<1> tired of the huge old ugly box
<0> mac mini core duo
<3> buy a shuttle
<0> ^-^- thinking of buying one.
<3> wtf? mac?
<1> screw macs
<3> the only kind of mac i like is the big mac
<1> i have too many apps that run only on pcs
<0> that's why you're fat!
<3> no i'm not, i'm big boned!
<1> xp is rock solid fo rme too
<0> i really have begun to realize that few of my apps are really vendor specific
<0> i can find alternatives
<4> I love my PowerBook.
<4> It's my primary machine.
<0> macbook pros look awesome
<4> Yeah...
<4> I'd rather have the choice of getting one withou the camera or IR thing, myself.
<4> s/withou/without/
<1> any new deals on the mini/micro atx stuff
<1> itx
<1> whatever
<0> a few of my friends have bought the macbook pros
<5> hey man no offense to anyone, but what's this ****ing bull**** nowadays among computer people to start every ****ing sentence with "So"
<0> they were even upgraded for free on them
<6> Ya know ... about the only truelly Wintel specific stuff I do ... is game.
<5> from sales guys to programmers
<4> FKnight`: I've never seen that.
<1> nano itx even
<0> FKnight`: takes time for tech-heads to articulate words.
<4> Hawkeye: Same here, and that's why I've got a game PC.
<0> it's like "uh" that politicians use!
<0> but tech-geeks type before they think
<5> fdiv_bug all the MS devs do that, and every sales guy we deal with at work does (computer related sales guy)
<6> Photoshop exists on both platforms.
<0> </bull****>
<4> Weird.
<6> And the new Aperture and Lightroom programs that are Mac only currently look phenomenal.
<6> The biggest problem with anyone making a Mac switch is the hardware investment.
<0> i don't have a monitor, keyboard, mouse..
<6> I mean hell ... I've got *4* PCs here.
<0> actually i do have a crt
<7> when I download things onto my computer's desktop it automatically puts it in the upper left hand corner, is there anyway to change this>>
<8> blex`: right-click, pickarrange, uncheck Autoarrange
<7> it is unclicked
<8> well, when you download, where should it put the icon?
<8> I mean, you're specifying the "Desktop" directory
<8> that has no physical layout
<9> if you save to desktop, it's going to put the file in the first place it finds open. if that's a problem, then put something else there.
<5> Microsoft is supposed to document the Hypervisor translation layer at the bottom of the Vista kernel
<5> so that Xen and **** can be optimized to run Windows
<5> "With appropriate licensing"
<5> hahahahahahah
<10> when people get banned from our cs:s server they come to irc to cry. :/
<0> i have my laptop back! i can play cs n ow.
<5> **** you know what's gonna happen
<5> I bet in future versions of Windows, every application will be hypervised with it's own virtual kernel and ****
<5> secure isolation of specific executables
<5> like a hardware chroot for every app
<10> I'm trying to freak out the squirrel trying to make a home in my roof freak out with really loud subsonic b***
<0> try a flamethrower
<0> dust off + lighter
<10> I'm just glad I don't own this house
<8> Dust off and nuke the house from orbit
<8> its the only way to be sure
<9> is it having any apparent effect on the squirrel? maybe he's a raver squirrel and enjoys that sort of thing.
<6> Gotta watch out for those raver squirrels ... especially when they're on the E


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