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<0> its amazing how fast http is when you access a text-only resource programmatically
<0> I do a GET to retrieve some file system information (like a list of 10 directories, files, sizes, dates, etc using Perl)
<0> and I consume that from Java, and it's like, 15ms
<0> it takes me longer to parse the results and put them into an object hierarchy than it does to do the retrieval
<0> when I used to hang in comp.lang.javascript, some people there were doing the whole "ajax" thing before it even had a name
<0> I must admit, at time I was like "what's the point of going to all this trouble?"
<0> you have to remember, I'm talking about the days of Mozilla 1.1, when Netscape 4 (which couldn't do ajax) had more market share than Opera and Mozilla put together
<0> and actually, up to Opera 8, Opera wasn't terribly adept at ajax
<1> Opera's not excessively adept at rendering pages
<1> I still like it better than IE7 though
<0> like a lot of other IT, ajax was available long before it was feasible on a wide scale
<1> tre
<1> like internet radio
<1> even podcasting ain't there yet
<0> ya, and voice recognition
<1> you still need to be kind of a nerd to listen to podcasts
<0> hand writing recognition
<2> FKnight`: I know lots of people who aren't nerds who do podcasts.
<2> I think instead of "kind of a nerd" you could've said "kind of a young or otherwise with-it person." :P
<0> RSS is at that stage... great technology, but not widely adopted... IE 7 and time will help change that
<2> We've got lots of kids at Duke who are dumb as rocks listening to podcasts.
<0> and Microsoft actually seems to "get it" this time around
<0> they won't be chasing the crowd
<2> Jet: How does IE7 do it any differently than the other browsers?
<0> fdiv_bug: it will come with every copy of Vista
<2> Zing!
<2> Point.
<0> and lots of people wil update when windows update tells them to
<3> startkeylogger
<4> wtf? Everyone knows about this but me?
<0> so they'll be exposed to it
<0> whether they'll know what do DO with it
<4> Haha jawed didn't read the topic.
<5> Alex-, its on slashdot now
<0> that's anyone's guess
<4> Oh.
<1> slashdot weighing in on the latest nes
<1> *news
<4> I don't read Slashdot.
<2> Yeah.
<4> I prefer to talk to my cat. More interesting.
<0> fdiv_bug: wait for hundreds of people to suddenly start telling you how cool RSS is after Vista hits store shelves
<2> FKnight`: s/latest/week old/
<2> FKnight`: It is, after all, Slashdot.
<1> fdiv_bug had an autoban for that before startk*ylogger went mainstream
<5> FKnight` was being facetious
<0> well, they won't know its RSS
<0> "Feeds"
<1> Jet: CHANNELS :D
<0> hahah
<4> Anyway, glad to see you guys got it under control.
<0> PointCast!
<2> Jet: My girlfriend saw me using Google Reader and figured it out on her own. I was pleased. :)
<4> PointCast! Where did that go?
<0> fdiv_bug: have the fixed Google Reader? I was unable to get it to import my opml file
<6> startkeylogger
<0> and then for some reason I couldn't delete subscriptions
<0> I dunno, I like the ajax thing, but I still like the way Bloglines works
<0> I remember some of our execs installing pointcast, then our network guys made us reconfigure their clients to only update like every 2 hours
<0> because they were concerned about bandwidth issues
<0> I tried pointcast, but it had nothing I was interested in
<0> any news headlines I could get I could get by going to cnn.com, I didn't need them delivered to my desktop
<1> yeah but Microsoft says that in the future
<1> you'll have these little agents that go out into the net
<1> and scour it for the stuff you want
<1> and bring it back
<1> </1996>
<1> by the way
<1> I love reading articles in computer magazines from 5 years ago
<1> you can see who was talking out of their ***
<1> cause you know the future
<1> John C. Dvorak articles are the best
<1> he talks out of his *** so much because his *** is so huge
<0> FKnight`: actually, that agent thing /might/ work now... RSS feeds could be "tagged" and include references to "similar" RSS feeds
<0> so when you subscribe, it might subscribe you to similar feeds
<0> like when you buy a book on amazone
<0> I could see that working
<0> maybe
<0> like the way tivo records other stuff when you say "record star trek"
<1> yeah
<0> 'course that would require rss feed authors to include those alternate references
<0> unless there would be a central place that catalogs feeds
<0> like say
<0> GOOGLE
<7> speaking of.. i just noticed that google's rss reader will play podcasts
<7> through a flash interface
<8> startkeylogger
<9> heh ;)
<9> guess he didn't read the topic...
<10> Sup.
<9> hey there
<10> Frazzydee! Long time no see. How are ya?
<10> well, I guess it's not important
<9> I'm great, thanks :) and you?
<10> there you are. well, I'm OK. The wife and kids are alright
<11> how can i plug something into my laptop and still have the speakers work?
<10> How's your daughter?
<5> metateck, it might be in the audio properties in control panel
<11> i didnt see it there
<10> Depends on what you plug in. A mouse, yes. A watermelon, no
<11> just choosing my speaker type
<11> i have another monitor with speakers on it
<11> wanted to plug it into the audio out
<5> but then it mutes the laptop speakers
<11> yeah
<11> and i didnt want it to
<10> More importantly, how can I save a word document as a de-obfuscated HTML file? That is, tables or divs, not spans and what-the-hell-else word 2002 uses
<0> Word 2003 generates fugly, uneditable HTML, but it does a good job of rendering what you see in Word, so when I have to use that, I maintain the "master" in Word and just Save As Html each time I need to modify it
<12> run it through word
<12> then use a php tidy engine to clean it up
<13> loop it
<10> Good call sartan, hadn't thought of that. Jet, it is necessary to have proper HTML as it is being integrated into a web app
<10> I've already got a good command line based tidier
<13> i understand the use of internet services buy why have them if people dont use them
<13> buy = but
<0> our HR dept bought this "OrgPublisher" software, it can generate client-side JS and HTML, so I take the stuff to integrate it on our Intranet. I look at some of the JS code it spit out, it doesn't even DO ANYTHING because its so badly writen
<0> it doesn't work
<0> I couldn't believe it
<13> belive it
<12> ****ing the next son of a bitch that tries this keylogger **** gets his *** torn out
<13> hmm
<13> what happends if your nick was it
<13> hehehe
<14> hey can anyone help me out.. my win xp account is administrator however i cant change so administrator only options
<13> too bad efnet has limits
<14> so=some
<15> haha sartan do you have norton
<13> still having probs with it
<12> sure dude. try me
<13> heh
<13> msg him
<12> anyone who uses NIS doesn't belong on irc anyway
<15> dont **** with sartan
<12> i'm just getting tired of the droves of idiots who join here thinking they'll be the first one
<13> heh
<12> it's been slashdotted.
<12> only 30,000 people have tried it before you
<13> ohh heh
<5> sartan, i'm local to mbh... i'll go tear his *** out for you
<15> sartan will lay the smack down
<12> damnstraight
<10> Whoa, htmltidy just made it worse. Replaced spaces with nbsp; and left all the spans
<0> now you know how many idiots read slashdot though
<12> i'm a #windows op with a vengance
<0> all the recent attempts MUST have been slashdot readers
<0> cause it was slow all day
<0> now its picked up again
<0> sartan: you work at a NOC, **** up their routing :)
<10> FYI, I just saved it with OpenOffice and it is good enough to use
<12> only works if i'm transit.
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