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<0> but a mismatch wouldn't damage memory would it
<1> that doesn't explain why it would test fine
<1> and then it suddenly doesn't
<2> It shouldn't.
<0> well
<0> when I put the replaced chip in
<0> I swapped
<0> so the Centon RAM was in the previously kingston slot
<0> and the kingston still went bad
<0> in a different slot
<0> so the slot isn't killing the stick
<0> how hot should ram be expected to get
<3> maybe static got to it
<1> FKnight-: who knows, maybe you just got two bad sticks from the same lot number or something
<1> maybe they had a defective batch
<3> FKnight- if you touch the ram it should only be warm
<4> do magents affect ram?
<4> magnets
<3> no
<2> It shouldn't be too awfully warm (333). I had some sticks that were in a destructive motherboard, and those puppies would get real hot.
<0> what does the CAS mean ?
<3> arg
<3> latency
<2> mmmm.... it's been a while, but memory serves column address strobe.
<3> hight = slower but more stable
<0> my board was set to configure "by SPD"
<0> for memory
<3> good
<3> thats what you want
<3> what is the clock on the processor
<2> Serial Presence Detect. That reads the settings off the stick.
<3> Tomomi wtf are you talkin about?
<2> "by SPD"
<1> he, always thought that just meant "by SPeeD"
<1> heh
<3> rofl
<1> in the end it amounts to the same thing
<3> its making settings based on the "SDP" wich is normally dependant on the processor clock
<3> riiight?
<1> the motherboard configures the specifics of accessing the ram based on its capabilities
<2> Synaux: Not sure what you mean.
<5> CAS does stand for Column Address Strobe. dynamic ram has a mutiplexed addresss bus. first it uses RAS (row address strobe) and sends the upper half of the address bits, then CAS and the lower half, then it can do a fast burst of consquetive addresses in the same row.
<3> well you got a 266 bus on the process the spd is going to run the ram at 266
<3> er er 333 etc
<3> tipically
<2> I'm not intimate of the logic of spd.
<5> the system generally uses the slowest of the speeds... if the system is rated for 266Mhz operation, it ain't gonna matter if you use 400MHz ram, it will run at 266. if the system *can* run at 400, but you use 266 ram, its gotta run at 266 or it will be flakey or crash-a-lot.
<5> SPD is just some bits on the ram that tells the motherboard what its performance is.
<5> also has the ram maker, part number, size/type, serial number, etc.
<0> yep
<5> noname ram is sometimes marked inaccurately.
<0> the Centon RAM is testing out fine as it always has
<5> brand name ram is usually better.
<0> and it's been in both slots
<0> and the RMA'd kingston replacement tested fine first time
<0> so this motherboard actually does not like Kingston RAM
<0> in fact, it destroys it
<0> only Kingston though
<1> RMA it again, 3rd times the charm
<2> Weird. I've heard a lot of good things about Kingston. Still, I'd never buy from them, but hey.
<1> if it destroys a 3rd stick, then go elsewhere
<0> hhehehehe
<5> I've used a lot of certified kingston stuff in things like Sun servers.
<5> but nowdays, I'm mroe likely to use Micron/Crucial.
<5> the kingston value ram is pretty generic. OK but nothing special
<0> well
<2> Yeah. Crucial only here.
<0> down to 512MB again
<5> sun systems require all kinda funky memory types, crucial often doesn't have them
<5> the E450 uses 4 DIMMs per bank, and I think they are fast-page-mode ECC, not even SDRAM.
<5> and 4 banks for max interleave
<5> which ends up being, in our case, 4 x 4 x 256MB sticks == 4GB
<0> with only 512MB I guess I can't run "Desktop Sidebar" or "Firefox"
<1> install WIndows ME
<1> everyone knows you can't run XP without 16GB of ram and a 17.3 jigahertz cpu
<5> with 512MB ram, I dunno, I think I'd install Linux and use it as a poormans server :D
<1> I shouldn't talk though, I have 768MB
<5> well, 1GB at least. **** the CPU, it runs OK on 800Mhz
<1> 3 x 256
<0> now I gotta wait 3 minutes while windows prepares a presentation to tell me my system just crashed.
<1> which gives me the headroom I need over 512
<1> for those times when Firefox and IE freak and use 200+MB
<6> no crash yet
<6> oh
<6> and all of the sudden
<6> every single MIDI application I have requires me to byp*** DEP
<6> for it's exe
<6> cubase, fruityloops
<7> omg.
<5> some kinda blues jam.
<5> whoa, Savoy Brown... "where has your heart gone?"
<5> thats vintage.
<1> I wonder if there is anyone local who would give me $20 for an old monitor that is all too bright and ****
<1> someone who refurbs them
<1> I just bring myself to toss it in the landfill
<1> hell, even if someone came and got it and didn't give me anything for it
<1> but I'd like something like $20
<1> just to feel like I'm getting something fo rit
<2> It bugs me that the items I am bidding on don't show up in the "watching" list. I mean if you're bidding on them, doesn't that sort of imply you are watching them?
<5> is it a really nice CRT ?
<5> er, was it?
<5> like, a high line Sony or something?
<2> btw, Jet, if that's less than a 17", I doubt anybody will touch it.
<5> oof, the garlic-n-parmesan cheezits are nasty-good.
<5> too bright probably means something like a capacitor in the RGB driver circuit has gone leaky.... takes hours to debug that, the part is $0.35.
<5> hours of shop time == $100s
<1> WOMEN!
<1> if its less than 17" they won't touch it
<1> damn them
<5> hell, even a 17" CRT is barely worth squat now working perfectly.
<5> I've tossed pretty much all the 17" CRTs our department had.
<5> and the 19's are right on the heels. gonna go 90% LCD next quarter.
<8> i'd like to go 2x19"
<8> i am at 2x17" right now
<5> 2x19 is the same resolution, just bigger.
<8> yeah?
<5> **** that. i prefer 1 20"... or a 20" and a 17" side.
<5> yeah, 19 are mostly all 1280x1024, same as 17"
<5> 20" are 1600x1200
<8> if i go too big, i don't want ot have to move my head to see what i'm looking at
<5> my wife uses 2 19's cuz she hates wearing gl***es.
<8> my laptop is 1920x1200
<5> and she's got them way closer than I like
<8> i'm used to that resolution
<5> my laptop is 14" 1400x1050, which is OK for portable.
<5> 1920x1200 is a 24" LCD
<9> mmm wuxga
<5> desktop
<8> it's not 24"
<5> friend o' mine has one of the $1800 Sonys that big.
<8> it's wuxga+
<5> not on a laptop, I mean on a desktop.
<8> why can't they make desktop lcds that are that res?
<9> yeah.
<1> I felt pretty good the other day, a co-worker about half my age came to my desk to ask a question. I went to show him something and he's like "how can you see that?"
<5> I like my desktop screen farther away than my laptop screen
<9> you have to go to 24" to get that
<1> I think I run 1152 x 835 or whatever at work
<1> on a 17"
<5> my wife can't read **** on my 1600x1200 20" unless she's right on top of it.
<9> at work I am 1280x1024 and 1024x768
<5> from where I'm sitting I have to stretch out to touch it
<8> i think my 2 17"s are 1280x1024 or whatnot
<9> desktop/laptop
<5> yeah, 1280x1024 is standard 17" desktop
<1> I tried 1280/1024 but even I can't see that
<5> on a LCD?
<5> its gorgeous.
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