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<0> Pickering Lumber Company No. 1
<1> Wow. I think I've heard of that loco.
<0> I've run behind its sister. http://www.ncry.org/roster/s_05/plc5.shtml
<0> says its 'stored operable now' :-/
<1> Acquired by PLA, February 1985
<0> k, there ya go!
<0> and O'Kane is this hustler/***hole who owns that carousel and various other decrepit properties on cannery row.
<2> wtf. that's not a chick with a big ***
<2> guess urls can be deceptive
<1> Gads.
<0> here's a nice shay... http://www.ncry.org/roster/s_12/srr12.shtml
<1> Woah. Never seen one painted quite that way.
<0> SD70MAC.... cream -> http://www.ncry.org/roster/s_2467/sp2467.shtml
<1> Very nice. But I think a Pacific is a 2-6-4
<0> I've ridden behind 2467 from salinas to san jose



<1> Ah. 4-6-2 is Pacific
<0> P-8 Pacific -> http://espee.railfan.net/sp_steam_p-08.html
<1> Oh. That page is wrong. It says it is a 2-6-2 but the front truck is definitely a 4. So it is a Pacific.
<3> Alright guys.
<3> How do I kick off my Wife/Kids-Less Weekend.
<3> Scotch on the rocks
<3> or
<3> Martini
<4> let me ask your wife
<0> my buddy who built the 1:8 scale 4-4-0 http://hogranch.com/files/Bitmaps/AcmeRR/440-closeup.jpg, he's working on a new larger 1:8, I think its a pacific, but I'm not sure.
<1> Well. If you want to be a lush all weekend.
<3> what an ***hole.
<3> :)
<0> its still frame pieces and other little pieces
<3> SD70MAC: Don't want to get hammered, just drink a couple and feel warm and fuzzy.
<1> Very nice, peerce.
<3> watch "The Big Lebowski"
<0> Dankmann: I started my 'doing **** at home with the wife and kids around' weekend off with a stiff patron+tangerine margharita after the girls went to a movie. :D
<4> i started mine off by pouring a bud light into a plastic cup
<0> actually, I think he's building a 4-8-0
<1> They have a bunch of tank engines. What ugly loco. The only loco uglier is the fireless cooker.
<0> whats that called?
<0> its way over twice as big as the 4-4-0
<0> or at least, seems that way.
<0> m***ive engine
<1> Let me look.
<0> he is talking about building it as a saddle tanker.
<1> 4-8-0 Twelve wheeler
<1> Mastodon 1882: Central Pacific (one example named Mastodon)
<1> Jubilee Was a N&W 4-8-0 ever called a "Jubilee"???
<0> so he doesn't need a water tank
<0> yeah, he likes CP
<1> Kind of an unusual arrangement.
<0> but, dunno mastadon.
<1> Yeah, must be a Mastadon.
<0> newer style. mid steam era.
<1> er. Mastodon.
<1> http://www.steamlocomotive.com/misc/wheels.shtml
<0> maybe its a 2-6-0 mogul
<0> :D
<1> That would make more sense to me.
<0> I'll have to find out again.
<1> Saddle tankers are just ugly.
<0> like I said, so far, its a big pile of steel bits and wheels and stuff, and some 5' long frame pieces
<3> These ***holes from downtown crashed a Dodge Diplomat in front of my house just now...
<2> any body parts on the lawn?
<2> you get to keep them
<0> its got nice locomotive suspension bits for the drive wheels
<3> No, kids are ok, thats why I was quiet for a bit, I ran outside and made sure everything was cool
<0> springs and br*** crossbar slider thingies, got no idea what they are called
<3> I invited them onto my patio for a drink
<3> they declined my offer
<1> http://www.dippy.org/photo/dip/dip002.jpg <--- one of these?
<1> I don't think they need alcohol on their breath just now.
<3> They are my brothers old friends from High School. Just partying.
<3> While my brother is in Marine Bootcamp.
<5> Why is California EPA estimated mileage "different" ?
<1> I was wondering the same thing.
<1> It is interesting they used that as a selling point. Pickup trucks do better than that these days.
<0> ya know, I think it might be a UP Northern 4-8-4, like http://www.livesteamlocomotives.com/imagelib/sitebuilder/misc/show_image.html?linkedwidth=actual&linkpath=http://modelsteamengines.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/sample2.jpg&target=tlx_new&title=Actual%20detailed%20drawing%20is%2030%20x%20118%20inches
<3> Our Truck (99 Ford Pickup with a Powerstroke Diesel, Supercab + 8 foot bed) GETS *BETTER* Fuel mileage now



<1> If it is I hope he knows what he got himself into.
<3> With the Computer Chip, 5" Exhaust & Intake
<0> SD70MAC; the main rails are over 5' long... yeah, I think he knows. its 1.5" to the foot scale, or 1:8
<0> I forget what the track width is.
<1> A foot I think.
<0> whats standard gauge again?
<0> 4' something ?
<1> 4'8.5"
<1> http://www.calslivesteam.org/ <--- scroll down for some big Live Steamers.
<0> 7" ?
<1> Seems a bit narrow, but I'd believe it.
<6> Cleveland Steamers?
<0> ah, here's ggls... http://www.ggls.org/
<1> peerce: http://www.calslivesteam.org/question.htm
<0> thats dave's home track.
<1> Cool
<0> k, 7.5"
<0> ggls was formed in 1936? heh. they claim to be the oldest still existing live steam club.
<1> That would kind of make them so. :D
<0> they moved to where they are now in 1971
<0> http://www.ggls.org/pictures/Fall2005/index.html buncha old farts playing with steam trains :D
<0> hahahah, http://www.ggls.org/pictures/Fall2005/G_0182.JPG
<1> His is going to be even bigger than this
<1> http://www.ggls.org/pictures/Fall2005/G_0229.JPG
<1> Tiny lil Shay. :D
<0> oooof! http://www.ggls.org/pictures/Fall2005/G_0229.JPG
<0> oh, we hit on the same picture :)
<0> geezus
<1> hahahah
<0> i never looked at these before.
<1> http://www.ggls.org/pictures/Fall2005/G_0268.JPG
<1> http://www.ggls.org/pictures/Fall2005/G_0265.JPG <--- Narrow Guage style
<0> ok, this is dave's train, and thats his wife on back, but I got no CLUE who's the engineer... http://www.ggls.org/pictures/Fall2005/G_0260.JPG
<0> the barrel car is actually his propane tank :D
<1> heh
<1> http://www.ggls.org/pictures/Fall2005/G_0245.JPG
<0> I've driven that 4-4-0, its neat.
<1> Now that's a beauty
<1> I'll bet.
<0> here's dave's again.. http://www.ggls.org/pictures/Fall2005/G_0266.JPG
<0> the controls are these tiny little br*** levers and valves
<0> oh, and the cab is modified for convenience... http://www.ggls.org/pictures/Fall2005/G_0268.JPG
<0> (yeah, the tahoe is pretty flashy)
<1> Yeah. The other 4-4-0 has the roof removed completely.
<0> dave has his on a smooth hinge, there's a little curved br*** slip thing
<0> dunno how to describe it
<0> like for a drafting table
<1> http://www.ggls.org/pictures/Fall2005/G_0251.JPG <--- there's a 4-8-4
<0> you lift up, it stays up. you put it down, it stays down
<1> Nice.
<0> betcha what dave is building is about like this... http://www.ggls.org/pictures/Fall2005/G_0173.JPG
<0> but honestly, I forget.
<0> i think he's been too busy to do much recently.
<0> so its gonna take 10 years... took him 2 years to build his 4-4-0
<1> That would be more along the lines of what I would expect for someone who just came off a 4-4-0.
<0> I like this -> http://www.ggls.org/pictures/Fall2005/G_0200.JPG mean, long and black, and it looks like it could pull a ton
<1> Yeah, that looks like the 4-8-4 in 0251
<0> this one, he's building almost entirely from plans. he got some cast iron wheels from someone made in the right style
<0> but he got the frame already built from a guy who's heart was failing and couldn't do it anymore, along with all the plans and a lotta stuff.
<1> Ah. That sort of thing happens unfortunately.
<0> the 4-4-0, he built from a kit that was supposed to be sent in stages, you buy each section when you finish the previous... its all raw stock and castings that you need to finish.
<0> the company that made it was dying while dave built it.
<1> http://www.therailroadpark.com/index1.html <--- I've ridden this, but it looks like they've made a lot of improvements since I have been there.
<0> lots of the parts he got from them ****ed, so he refabbed them from scratch
<7> I wish I had the space for even a simple HO train setup
<0> dave had a HUGE O gauge setup. lionel. all kinda operating accessories too, like ice houses, and lumbermills and stuff
<0> cattlecar loading stations
<1> http://www.bittercreekwesternrr.org/050702.html <--- there's a m***ive articulated live steamer on this page
<0> I have a couple funky old pictures, these are like 10 years old on film I scanned with a bad scanner 5 years ago.... http://hogranch.com/files/Bitmaps/AcmeRR/Trainroom2.jpg
<0> http://hogranch.com/files/Bitmaps/AcmeRR/ClimbingTheGrade.jpg
<1> Third down, right hand column
<1> I've seen those
<1> Here we go, fourth from the bottom left column


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