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<0> cause my mail client has NEVER EVER been owned
<0> and I don't run antivirus
<0> or sandbox my mail client
<1> I have to ****. Don't talk about sandboxes.
<2> skoal: go **** then
<2> in a toilet, not a sandbox
<1> I will soon.
<3> Im not just worried about the mail client getting owned...if the OS is facing the internet without NAT it can get exploited...other crap like that too
<1> Yeah. If that's the way it works out, I'll be happy.
<1> xtor: If you have *** with a phillipino hooker you can get stuff too.
<0> xtor yeah see, that's why I just set up my network properly and use firewalls like I'm supposed to and keep my **** patched
<1> I read.
<2> read what?
<3> keeping your **** patched doesnt help if the patches are available 5 days after the worms are
<0> yeah because when Microsoft is late on a patch, you're forced to run executables from unknowns
<0> right



<3> which is why I like sandboxes
<0> why not run XP in the sandbox?
<3> some of the exploits runn stuff like .vbs scripts and other active content WITHOUT user approval
<0> why NT4
<0> because XP has less of a chance of being owned
<4> I love these people who jump through these enormous flaming hoops to solve problems that haven't happened.
<3> FK work yeah I could run XP in the sand box too...but I had a license for NT 4 and NT 4 runs in a small footprint.
<0> I don't think you're running a VM at all :D
<5> Hmmm, looks like all but one of my 128mb PC100 sticks have gone to the great beyond.
<4> I read my mail in Linux in a VM running in XP in a VM running on my GSX Server running on Linux.
<5> Guess my Linux box is really on hold now.
<5> Until I can get more memory.
<0> I think you're making up the whole thing to justify your belief that Microsoft should continue releasing patches for unsupported, discontinued OSs :D
<3> I want to replace my outlook express also...thinking of that thunderbird client. Any other mail client recommendations?
<0> thunderbird is great
<0> if all you want to do is mail
<5> Anyone got any 128m and/or 256m PC100s they wanna donate to the cause?
<6> yeah, I use Thunderbird exclusively for my personal email
<0> I'd prolly use Thunderbird over OE, but I need more, so I use Outlook.
<4> It works okay for newsgroups, too.
<6> Hawkeye: I wouldn't know where they are.
<0> Thunderbird more than likely kicks OE's *** when it comes to newsgroups
<0> but then again, helloworld.c kicks OE's *** when it comes to newsgroups
<3> Does thunderbird have an OE importation/migration process? Like where it imports archived email and account settings by chance? Just curious.
<4> Insofar as anything kicks anything's *** when it comes to newsgroups.
<4> xtor: Yes.
<6> xtor; yes
<4> That information and much more is available on the Thunderbird site.
<5> People still "read" newsgroups?
<5> Hell, I just use them for downloads.
<7> man, outlook's built-in spam filter is weak. and it really doesn't seem to learn at all. i may disable it and go back to spambayes.
<3> newsgroups.google.com is probly the place to read em.
<3> since they bought dejanews
<7> and ****ed it all up.
<4> xtor: No such host.
<3> did they **** it up? I thought it just looked the same
<3> fdiv www.dejanews.com goes to it
<4> No it doesn't.
<4> It goes to groups.google.com.
<3> http://groups.google.com/
<3> yeah I was mistaken
<7> they totally redid the interface. i liked deja for research. i didn't like what google did to it.
<0> we used the Netscape 4 mail client back in the day -- it ****s major **** coming out of Michael Moore's ***
<0> but Thunderbird is decent
<3> Is there anything else in the same league as thunderbird...or is TB the king?
<7> i confess i don't really remember the appearance that well, but i do remember being pissed off after google snagged it.
<4> xtor: For Windows? Just use Thunderbird if you don't want Outlook.
<0> does anyone know if myspace plans to ajaxify their site?
<0> cause their **** is looking long in the tooth compared to everything else coming out
<3> myspace looks kinda ghetto and simplistic for such a m***ive operation...still
<8> ajax is a fad
<3> but I like that look
<0> yeah that's what I'm saying
<8> :D
<0> like
<3> I dont like glitzy sites at all
<9> FK: compared to what?
<0> you gotta scroll down to get **** on your sidebar that's 2 pages down
<10> is "ajax" what flickr uses so that you can edit content right on the page?



<0> Cody`: google.com/ig or live.com where you can customize your page layout and **** with drag and drop, and have quick refreshes of data on the page, **** like that
<0> the pages on myspace are static as ****
<0> refreshes and **** are old
<0> old-sk00l
<10> FK: never been to either of those sites... but on flickr, if you're signed in, you can basically edit anything on the page that others might see by just typing like it was a word doc
<4> Cody`: That's probably Ajax, as is Google Maps and its ability to just drag the map around rather than have to click to scroll one way or another.
<4> It's doing all the requests in the background and is dynamically updating the data displayed on the page.
<4> FK|Work`: The static, clunky interface is why I'm now using reader.google.com instead of Bloglines.
<5> MySpace got too big, too fast.
<0> I'll check that out.
<0> I gotta move my blog
<0> cause I can't afford my server anymore
<11> anyone know of a good m*** emailer that sends to individual recipients and wont get caught in spam filters?
<0> Outlook Express
<0> put everyone on the BCC line
<12> Islam is not a government
<12> wrong window
<0> filters work at many levels though
<11> FK: looking for some sort of app that will manage email lists, etc
<0> !google spammer tools
<0> :D
<13> http://www.shrinkmylink.com/iqm
<8> "shrinkmylink.com" ? at least "tinyurl.com" is, you know, tiny
<0> heheh]
<10> ug
<8> I think I'm going to start a website www.thissiteshrinksurlstomakethemshorterandeastertotype.com
<4> I like how they use the extraneous "www." too.
<10> that's one STUPID sounding domain name
<4> Cody`: Yes. Yes it is.
<0> fdiv_bug yeah
<10> I 'shrinkmylink' by jumping in the pool
<3> eastertotype
<14> cody please
<14> you make more money than god
<2> Cody`: hehehehe
<10> eh? Dude, no I don't.
<14> yeah you do :p
<10> and what does that have to do with linkshrinkage
<2> gid doesnt really make any money
<2> god too
<14> but cody does :)
<0> God has a huge tax liability
<0> brb lunch
<10> I make enough to pay the bills
<14> ehe
<14> hehe
<14> dude you are in sales
<10> actually, I think in 05 I didn't make enough to pay the bills. At least I spent more in 05 than I made
<14> you make bank
<10> I do okay, but what does that have to do with this conversation?
<14> we cant help it if you spend more than you make :)
<10> and it's not like sales is hard btw, even a cody can do it... so csm, why bring up what I make? Why not try sales out?
<2> how did we get on the topic of cody's revenue?
<14> no dude... sorry to bring this up at all :)
<14> just thought you were all on the point
<2> i have another interview for my possible promotion tomorroe
<2> getting kinda nervous
<14> girl
<14> dont get nervous
<14> go n there and bust out some *** :)
<14> and **** cody
<14> he makes too much money ;D
<10> as long as you work legally, there is no such thing as making too much money as your money comes from someone paying you and people don't decide to pay someone more than they need to
<10> likewise, sadly, I don't believe in the concept of being underpaid
<15> well, there was this stipper once with a false leg. . . i felt bad for her
<15> so I tipped her a bit mor ethan I should have
<16> there is a hot *** chick on suicidegirls.com who has one leg
<10> There are people who I FEEL *could* get paid more than they do, and there are people that I FEEL get paid more than they should simply because I don't place the same value on their tallent... But each of those decisions are made by the person doing the work, and the person paying for that work.
<15> hmm. I bet a girl could get a niche spot in the porn industry by pretending to be an amputee and having her leg airbrushed out
<10> nerp: For sure.
<10> azure would be *ALL OVER* it
<15> I get paid well, but i'm a total oddity becuase reporters traditionally don't make much money
<15> but I work for an indepedent publisher.


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