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<0> i need visual studio on my laptop
<0> its so damn expensive
<1> reza_: you know visual studio express 2005 edition is free?
<0> i did not
<0> i'll check it out
<1> yeah!
<1> i use it on my laptop
<2> Also, I dunno if its still true, but the older versions of vstudio, the EULA had a provision for a 2nd copy on a portable system
<3> [21:59:17] <1> LETS GO TO GAMEINFO
<0> peerce : still probably couldn't afford it
<3> HAHAS :D
<2> reza_; oh, you don't have any vstudio licensing? wait, you're working with Exchange Server, so presumably this is for a business? they should be paying for it
<0> i work as a low level IT consultant right now, im just trying to learn some new **** on my own time
<2> oh
<0> they wont pay for ****
<0> i've done some C# programming before when i learnt it, but never had anything to program so i figured i'd see if i could do something useful for our clients w/some C# exchange application
<1> /!\ 00I BROKE HORDE /!\
<1> haha jacked
<2> s/consultant/freelance technician/
<0> i need to become an actual consultant
<0> i just work for an IT outsourcing company right now
<0> www.home2office.com
<1> consulting really isn't cool
<1> you have to find your own clients..
<1> do your own accounting
<1> taxes
<1> you need money to front purchases
<3> No but it's easy money.
<1> you need to chase your clients for billing
<1> The *BEST* thing to do
<1> is become incorporated
<1> then the outsourcing companies hire your company
<3> Is it a CCNP and makes lots of cash.
<0> i've already mustered up a few clients of my own
<3> Is get a *
<2> my friend has done OK for himself, but he's been incorporated since the 80s
<1> then you just hire an accountant
<2> and he's been freelancing since the 70s
<1> Olin: i'm *very* actively working toward my CCNP.
<1> as in i'll have it in 2.5 months
<2> but he's a developer, not a technician/admininstration guy
<3> sartan: :)
<4> "CCNP and make lots of cash"
<4> do you actually believe that?
<0> lol
<0> i hope he doesn't
<3> Do you live in the UK?
<0> peerce : can i do some of this exchange stuff with visual studio express?
<3> Because here a CCNP gets you a k job, minimum.
<1> Rofflecockecates.
<1> Unify: what do you do?
<4> i'm a fluffer.
<3> He insults people on IRC.
<3> :D
<1> hehe
<1> i make pretty okay coin right now.
<1> doin what i love
<3> :)
<3> Me too.
<1> but im losing my job at the end of june
<3> I have ***, get watched and get paid for it.
<3> It's great.
<2> reza_; if its got a C# compiler that does managed code, I'd ***ume so. I don't do exchange *or* C#, we're mostly a oracle + java shop here.
<1> i had *** 3 hours ago
<4> it isn't *** when it involves your hand, and by watched, you mean on some adult webcam community with 25 gay guys tuned in.
<3> sartan: Did you get paid for it? :D
<1> man who needs to get paid
<1> i get laid
<3> I get both.
<1> everyone on IRC is a self described porn star.
<3> Of course.
<3> So what movies have you worked in?
<4> I AM GINGER LYNN
<5> Sartan and XTR's Excellent Adventure
<1> <- dirk diggler
<1> imdb me
<0> i want to get back into programming but i dont have any idea where to start
<6> ooF
<0> how do you like doing oracle/java work peerce ?
<3> Sounds painful.
<1> reza_: maybe you could pick up some peice project work
<0> what is that
<1> well..
<1> there's a website out there
<1> i forget what it's called..
<1> people post little small projects
<2> reza_; I don't even code anymore :D I'm the systems level architect here, we have 8 coders (2 SQL and 6 java) who do the actual programming
<1> you get paid to complete them
<3> rentacoder.com? D:
<1> that's the one
<3> ew
<1> reza_: you could look for "easy" ones
<1> do them *anyway* even if you don't get paid
<1> it'll be good practice
<1> i found that it's really hard to code without a direction
<0> yeah it is
<1> you can't just "practice" without something to work towards.
<3> Make an IRC client and become elite!!!11!!
<0> yeah i have to get my foot in the door at an entry level position somewhere
<0> im not about to write anothe rirc client
<3> Aww :(
<0> plus i'd have to learn the IRc protocol,, and that'd be a complete waste of time
<3> Make a program that stabs people in the face - not over the internet like the bash.org quote, but directly from your own screen if they look over your shoulder or try to use your PC.
<6> oh jeez
<7> can anyone help me with audio stream ripping?
<1> i'm scarily familiar witht he irc rfc.
<1> <- used to write ircds
<1> well. one ircd
<1> work *on* ircds
<3> sartan: Don't abuse plurals please.
<1> Yessir
<1> deep apoligies, sir
<3> :P
<3> What one did you work on?
<1> unreal
<3> Nice, good IRCd.
<1> yeah. one of my favorites
<8> it's garbage
<1> but after bumming on efnet for a few years it's kind of lboated
<8> sartan ****s.
<8> he ruined it.
<3> I like Bahamut for little projects.
<1> hella big for memory leaks
<8> all those comments with limericks in them
<1> and i used to have a big problem having klines/gklines/etc 'sticking'
<9> I like Bahama mamas
<1> like, they would be configured
<8> 200,000 lines of code to incorporate moo.dll
<8> what a waste
<1> the ircd would list them
<3> sartan: I thought that was fixed?
<1> but they wouldn't work half the time
<1> i don't know, if it was it's changed now
<1> i quit the whole scene because apparently the ircd net i was working with
<2> heh, my friends collection of old chips... http://www.acmesi.com/History/index.html
<1> the upper administrators were actrually putting the bots there
<1> i was getting rid of scanners and xdcc bots
<3> Screw it, shall I rent this VDS?
<2> actually, thats just hte really old ones, he's got at least that many CPUs that are newer
<10> 1995 - Sun offers free psychedelic mushrooms to industry analysts, who immediately start writing articles about how Java is the future of programming because of its portability and integration with the Internet.
<10> Late 1996 Programmers trying to produce actual web pages with applets that really work commit m*** suicide out of frustration and depression. Industry analysts increase their dosage of hallucinogens to compensate.
<10> 1997 Taking the advice of hallucinating industry analysts, Corel decides to rewrite all their applications, including WordPerfect, in Java. The end result is the first known word processor that is slower to use than a typewriter.
<0> hahahaha
<3> lol
<10> 1998 Realizing that the applet thing is fading fast, Sun repositions Java again, this time as a server language. They steal the design of Microsoft Transaction Server and convince everyone to pretend they created the design.
<10> 1999 Java 2 Enterprise Edition is introduced to the rave reviews of drunk and stoned industry analysts. 21,499,512 articles are written about it, but no one actually uses it because its immature and expensive.
<9> !trivia komibashi
<5> hmm. like a virgin teen prostitute
<5> immature and expensive
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