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<0> can't say much more, sorry
<1> s'ok
<1> I understand
<0> anywho
<0> 4 boxes to build today
<2> hah
<0> weee
<2> diztorted lies, he works for dennys
<1> heh
<0> darky could look up who I work for
<2> hehe i could ;)
<0> but he's a loo-hoo-loser
<0> hah
<2> ive actually worked with the US DoD before
<1> so you guys all know ESX best and have no ideas for me w.r.t. that USB problem I was having, eh?
<2> i couldnt tell you who tho



<2> usb isnt supported for VMs under ESX
<0> he's using server
<2> oh
<2> whats his problem? do i have to scroll up for this?
<2> cuz im pretty lazy
<2> hehe
<1> no I can tell you
<0> usb p***through isn't working
<2> thats a shame
<1> I'm running 2.6.12, with all the usb stuff compiled as a module
<2> which module?
<1> on the host box
<0> he's running gentoo
<2> there are a few usb mods
<0> keep that one in mind.
<1> I'm willing to reinstall host OSes at this point
<1> yeah
<1> ohci_hcd
<2> which usb mod are you using?
<2> ok did you try the other ones?
<1> yeah, I tried uhci
<2> and the last one?
<1> I can see the printer in /proc/bus/usb
<2> hmm
<1> ohci works
<2> so your usb printer works?
<1> the host OS will load the driver for the printer if I turn on hotswap/coldswap
<1> but vmware server isn't showing anything regarding USB in the vmware-serverd.log or the vmware.log
<1> and the VM > Removable Devices menus for USB are both empty
<2> hmm
<1> I mean the log files show any usb related settings in the .vmx file with DICT stuff, but no device detection if I plug or unplug the device
<2> what device are you trying to get working?
<1> hp printer
<0> the printer
<3> hi. is it possible to run vmware from a linux console, with no gui installed on the host?
<1> I tried adding an usb.device.autoconnect line but that didn't help
<2> connelly: id have to research that, mostly cuz i have no idea
<2> i dont support workstation or GSX
<2> only ESX
<0> connelly. did you add that to the config while the vm was powered off?
<2> but let me see what i can find out
<1> darky_wrk: yeah, I've read every knowledge base entry in VMTN with the word USB in it
<1> diztorted: yes
<0> ok
<2> did you read the admin guide for GSX?
<1> yeah
<0> darky_wrk. do you guys get a lot of support calls for ibm san arrays? :p
<3> someone must know :)
<2> sharks? yes
<2> not a lot.. but a fair number
<2> Gothfunc: are you talking about workstation?
<0> hrm
<3> mostly
<3> but anything really
<0> ds6k/8k has no planned support for esx3 w/ clustering
<0> NICE
<2> Gothfunc: dunno, if wS and GSX use commandline commands then you would be able to im sure
<3> actually, i think i mean workstation
<1> Gothfunc: I'd imagine you're looking for vmware server
<3> connelly, hm. does gsx come with its own client too, if you know what i mean?
<3> or would i have to connect from another machine?



<2> it has its own management client
<2> just like ESX
<2> workstation doesnt though
<1> http://www.vmware.com/products/server/
<2> at least im pretty sure it doesnt
<3> and that runs from pure console?
<3> cool
<3> cheers connelly
<0> hrm, nice
<0> I think I may have eliminated ibm from our storage plans :D
<2> server or GSX can all be managed remotely so you wouldnt need a gui on the linux consoel itself
<2> diztorted: is that a good thing? ;)
<0> yeah
<0> I'm not an ibm koolaid drinker
<0> I have however, sipped from the hitachi koolaid jug, and I'm liking it's flavor :p
<2> well put
<0> yeah
<0> I can admit that
<0> most people are biased, and claim to not be
<0> if I like something, I go "Hey, that's pretty ****ing cool"
<3> even after reading that page connelly, which i've read before, it doesn't really tell me anything i need to know ;)
<3> reading other stuff now though
<0> now I go to wokr
<0> work
<0> 4 esx 2.5.2 scripted installs to run in europe this morning
<0> and my 3.0 install! :D
<0> unf unf unf
<2> 3.0 install?
<2> Gothfunc: why dont you just take my word for it?
<3> by the sounds of things, the performance of workstation is better than server
<3> is that correct?
<2> well
<2> its close
<3> darky_wrk server or GSX can all be managed remotely so you wouldnt need a gui on the linux consoel itself <---- i will need to run the vms from the host in question. i just don't want to run a gui under vmware, when i know vmware is all i will be using on this machine. it seems a waste of resources
<3> does that make sense?
<2> well
<2> not really since the gui doesnt take up hardly any resources
<2> if you need to stop the gui just so you have enuff resources to run a few vms, you might want to reconsider what hardware you put server on
<3> i do not need to do that
<3> but obviously if it can be run on console, i would do that instead
<3> if it can't, i won't
<2> well ill be honest with you, it is 100x better to use the gui
<2> it makes you life so much easier
<3> ok :P
<3> thanks for the help :)
<2> no prob
<1> have any of you guys done much with using the VNC interfaces to automate guest OSes without instrumentation?
<2> not really
<0> darky_wrk. esx3 b2 :) I got a dl580g3 for it
<2> no you dont
<2> you were supposed to send that to me
<2> remember?
<0> oh yeah
<0> my bad g
<0> anywho, so my 580
<0> :)
<0> and I have these 385's overseas that need to get done today too
<0> I was happy to discover the rhel 2.1 acu works just peachy on the cos
<2> indeed
<2> what build is that?
<4> hey
<4> can esx vswitches do vlan and trunking?
<4> here's why i ask
<4> the network guys want to start ***igning servers to a particular vlan based on functionality
<4> wel, obviously that's going to caus ea problem with vm's because of the physical limitation of having the host nic attached to a port on a physical switch whichj is configured for a given vlan
<4> if we can trunk the vswitch to a physical switch that restriction goes away
<2> um
<2> well
<4> :|
<2> cant you just configure the port of the physical switch to carry more than one vlan tag?
<4> no
<4> not that we know of
<2> really?


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