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<0> can i expand a logical hd i made ?
<1> hhi guys
<2> hi
<1> i havea problem with installing vmware workstation, it used to install fine, but now at the end of the install it starts to roll back and says cudnt be installed, any ideas why this cud be?
<1> all i can think is its some service stopped maybe, coz i run a lean xp for audio
<2> does it give an error about a dll and no permissions?
<2> in th registry
<1> i keep missing the error it happens so quick , then it just starts to roll back
<2> hm, on mine it had me click ok
<2> look in your logs
<1> hmm
<1> the vmware dir is not there after the rollback ; /
<2> look in your system logs
<3> playing: "dannii minogue & the soul seekers - perfection (turn me upside down) (saemas haji & emmanuel remix)" .:kbps|Stereo|:00:.
<3> soz,wrong chan
<3> :p



<4> oh wow
<4> lots of action in here today
<4> mulla: clear our all your registry entries for vmware
<4> then try again
<1> ok
<1> thnx
<4> let us know
<1> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE
<1> i cant see any listing for vmware
<1> ; /
<5> Do you need a license for VMware tools? Im only using the player ..
<3> dont think so
<6> no you dont.
<6> infact, install the tools
<2> ?
<6> you'll be better off
<2> don't waht? what'd i miss?
<6> dont need a license for vmware tools on vmware player
<2> oic
<4> hmm
<4> can vmware player install the tools tho?
<4> or do they already have to be installed?
<4> or manually installed
<2> hm
<2> There is nothing to configure in ESX Server in order to use
<2> External Switch Tagging (EST mode).
<2> but in th config is doesnt say jack **** about port groups etc
<2> liek it shows in the picture
<2> gr
<2> GRRRR
<2> does it automatically sense if a port on the physical switch is set to trunking?
<7> it should
<4> ESX?
<4> no it wont
<2> so this document is **** then
<4> if you dont have trunking setup on your switch, then your vlans wont work
<2> it says you don't have to set it up, just create groups
<4> thats correct
<4> just create your port groups and give it the vlan tag id
<2> ya well, nothign in the network config says anything ABOUT groups
<4> the virtual switch will add the tag to the packet as it leaves the switch before it gets handed over to the physical switch
<2> there's no place TO set them up
<2> see my point?
<2> look at this
<2> http://www.vmware.com/pdf/esx_vlan.pdf
<2> page 7
<4> sec
<2> figure 8
<4> ok?
<4> whats wrong with it?
<2> it doesnt exist
<4> you have to click on "add group" at the main switch page
<4> then it will bring you to that screen
<4> try it
<7> darky_wrk. you need to speak remedial to bitbyte
<2> which makes me think that either 1. you have to enable trunking somewhere so that menu appears. or 2. the vswitch autosenses it's hooked to a trunking port and enables that menu
<4> bitbyte: no, all you have to do is click on "add"
<7> <@darky_wrk> you have to click on "add group" at the main switch page
<4> comn dude
<4> dont you dare make me stereotype americans :)



<7> hah
<4> cuz dizzy wouldnt like that
<4> hehehe
<7> darky_wrk. I actually have a highly tecnical question about multipathing :p
<4> go for it
<7> Since I had a debate about it yesterday w/ somebody
<4> im pretty good with multipaths but not as good as some of our other engineers
<7> esx has a limit (can't recall if it's hard or not) limit on the number of lun's
<2> i'm looking
<7> 128, if I'm not mistaken
<4> its configurable
<4> you can go higher
<7> right, but that isn't my question
<7> if you're multipathing, does each path count against that quantity?
<4> no
<7> I've read otherwise
<7> but, ok
<4> its not true :)
<4> i can tell you that 100%
<7> well
<7> let me tell you
<2> dion't believe him, he's a socialist
<4> hahah
<6> COMMIES EVERYWHERE
<2> socialist = commie lite
<6> ya
<6> national socialists ALL THE WAY
<7> the SE "specialist" at NetApp for VMware products tried to tell me that using RDM's for all of your vm's is better than LUN's with vmfs.
<7> I blinked and started tuning him out after that
<6> IM DOWN WITH THE germanian idealogy
<2> germanium?
<6> no.
<4> dizzy: eh?
<7> yeah.
<4> dude just bring all your questions here :)
<4> hehe
<7> No no
<7> NetApp's trying to sell us hardware
<7> their first visit to us, they got beat up pretty bad.
<2> i have a storage meeting at 1
<2> bleah
<2> oops
<7> This guy did slightly better
<7> he told me that the consolidation ratio that VMware says is their sweet spot is roughly 8-12 vCPU to every pCPU
<7> I almost asked him if he really thought it was possible to get 16-24 VM's on a DL380.
<7> That did anything meaningful, mind you.
<7> Not sitting around idle :p
<2> dual cpu you might
<7> dual core you mean?
<2> altho 16 would be the top of whatd i'd expect
<2> i dont care if it's dual core or dual cpu
<7> well, wait
<2> i'm running dl360 with dual xeons
<7> right
<2> and i have 17
<7> are they doing anything?
<2> which is about as high as i want to go
<2> yes
<2> not heavily utilized, but not idle either
<2> one of them is our intranet server
<7> I wouldn't push a dual cpu box that high :p
<2> wimp
<2> hehe
<7> but regardless, 8-12 vCPU's per pCPU is a high number.
<2> i'm running about 52% nominla cpu utilization on the host
<4> <7> he told me that the consolidation ratio that VMware says
<4> is their sweet spot is roughly 8-12 vCPU to every pCPU
<2> yes, i agree
<4> that statement is so wrong
<7> I KNOW
<4> its 4 to 1
<4> max
<7> I said "Ok, well maybe they're saying 4-5, but 8-12?!"


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