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<0> jchaoul: when typing df -i how many inodes in percentage are you using on that filesystem?
<1> its working fine now
<1> it dropped from 93 to 83
<1> and the commands seem to work nicely
<2> pbug give it up.. jchaoul has a single track mind.
<0> dunno, I feel trolled
<1> trolled?
<1> why man, you've been of great help
<2> pbug, na.. trolls are higher on the food change.
<3> pbug: uhm don't know the english word... the german word is 'strafgesetz' I think
<3> criminal law?
<3> something like that
<0> yeah criminal law
<0> rien: going to be a lawyer?
<4> bodensatz
<3> unfortunately not :)



<4> zmurgy
<3> I'm doing some law courses though because I like it
<3> I should have gone to law school or something :)
<3> instead I'm gonna be some techie ;)
<2> Patent, IP and Copyrigt law are the only interesting tidbits.. the rest is HOOO-HUM..
<3> well
<3> it actually doesn't matter to me
<4> interesting? Those are the crappy bureaucratic ones
<3> those laws are interesting for you because you have to do with them
<3> what I like about practicing law stuff is the argumentation
<2> ya well they are more interesting than say.. "Shaken Baby Syndrone" which is just a bull**** and half concept.
<3> take a specific law, and argue why it applies (or why not) in a specific case
<2> Business Law always pissed me off.
<3> or even better, when there are conflicting laws or interests
<2> I never understood the liability stuff. It makes no sense.
<0> rien: is post-highschool in the netherlands free for people there? or do you have to pay to go to university?
<3> you have to pay to go there, but it's affordable
<3> Netherlands try to make sure that everyone who did the required things in highschool can go to university
<3> I believe I pay around $200 a month university fees
<3> but you can get up to 1000$ a month in some kind of loan system
<3> if you finish your education in time, a lot will be refunded
<0> ahh nice
<0> is there universities that are more expensive ie. for the elite students?
<3> uhm
<3> yes I believe we have one or two
<3> nijenrode has some elite master courses
<3> but those are private organizations afaik
<3> and they are extremely expensive
<0> ahh
<3> I think you pay around 30 kEUR for a 2 year master programme
<0> afaik they are implementing tuition fees in universities in germany due to an extraordinary amount of foreign students.. mainly chinese.. and there is reports of institutions competing for "elite" status
<3> heh :) a lot of german students study at my university
<3> but thats because there's a numerus fixus on psychology related studies in germany I heard
<0> germany is a weird country
<0> it's a very controlled society, you can't really speak of true freedom
<5> hi, got a program that i can download mp3... :) or name of a program.
<5> pkg_add ..
<6> wget
<7> tsb, Internet Explorer.
<5> i got no explorer
<2> Dora Te Explorer?
<0> /usr/local/bin/internet_explorer...
<7> heh
<1> aka 'monkey slayer'
<2> slayers of a golden monkeys, ruler of the cowering k9s, king of the craven kang-a-roos...
<2> and prince of the pretty panthers
<0> companion to bugs, even though we don't always agree
<1> hehehe
<1> aren't you a beastmaster?
<0> wussat?
<8> _jchaoul: hows your reading?
<1> Dianora.. I read every letter, ty
<9> sup
<8> ;-)
<1> my *** still hurts
<2> dia, I doubt reading is the issue.. Try the next protocol layer.=-)



<8> ;-)
<8> yeah btdt
<8> some of this stuff is RTSL
<2> just as long as it isn't a HUTA issue.
<0> jchaoul: btw that "lesson" dianora gave you yesterday is initiation, it's been a while since I saw one of those.. you're now of our exclusive club
<2> "Hey nobody is perfect and for some reasons we ship OpenBSD with gdb." <chuckle>
<3> :)
<1> pbug... am I a panther yet?
<0> not quite
<0> you'll have to work hard at that
<1> ok
<1> hehe
<2> There is only one panther and only one monkey.
<2> when Adobe and I p*** on from this channel we will p*** the titles on.. but until them.. STFDASTFU.
<1> 'He who slays monkeys'
<1> are you into manga?
<2> please ensure it is not /lay/pade/ =-)
<1> day wont end
<1> end day end
<2> They both give me gas in a serious way.
<8> I picked up GiTS in manga for interest
<1> *nods*
<1> you're a panther
<1> I'm a Yeast Shepherd
<2> "A multiprocessor machine will provide the user (even the casual user), with more flexibility. However, truth be told, for most of us, most of the time, it is over-kill. You need a kitten, and you're getting a tiger." - MacSpeedZone.com
<2> umm.. sure folks.. keep smoking that ditchweed.
<1> lol
<2> I find it funny there are already wars over if the new iMacs are faster or not.. and half the benchmarks seem to be non-native x86 versions.
<10> no one will ever need more then 640k of memory
<2> as if Photoshop CS2 running under CPU emulation mode will not cause it be slower than it's native CPU counterpart. =-)
<1> macs blech
<1> i work in a mac shop
<1> they get on my nerves
<1> they slam MS all day- and sing the praises of apple
<2> I miss my old MacOS 7 video production shop.=(
<0> I miss my day of ol'
<1> i miss my atari
<1> pitfall
<1> heh
<1> Mouring, I say, give me a quad opteron/amd64 running gentoo
<1> what software wont run on it- i dont need anyway
<2> Rather have a Quad G5 with a 1TB array and Final Cut Pro.
<2> preferrably in a laptop format.
<11> Have a question on subshell. Here is my script: n=0; cmd1 | while read line; do n=100; done; echo $n; <--- n is still 0 rather than 100 that I expected. Anyone how to fix this?
<2> actually Final Cut Studio.. since they don't sell Final Cut by itself anymore.=-)
<1> :)
<1> racoon I cant help on that
<1> ask the gurus
<0> did you know guru backwards is urug?
<2> racoon, subshells never p*** values to the parent shell.
<2> that is just the way of life.
<1> isnt there like a way to make it work tho?
<2> save it to a file and read it back from a file.
<1> ok
<2> while ..; do echo $n > count; done n=`cat count`; echo $n
<1> Mouring, but | is what opens the subshell
<11> mouring, I found this on google. n=0; exec < input.txt; while read line; do n=100; done. However, it works for inputing text file only. I need the output of a binary command cmd1 above.
<2> ls | while read x; do echo $x; done wors just fine.
<2> /wors/works/
<2> ***uming ls is output to STANDARD OUT and *NOT* STANDARD ERROR
<1> Mouring, yup, but in most cases you don't need to open a subshell, you only do because thats the only known way
<1> Mouring, it does, but it opens a subshell.
<1> < <() will not open a subshell unlike |
<1> while read x; do echo $x; done < <(ls)
<2> the while ...; done is a subshell
<1> hence he'll be able to ***ign variables as much as he wants to outside of it
<1> nop
<2> That is independant of anything else you may tag on around it.
<1> I'm sure of that
<1> test and you'll see i'm right
<2> ls | while read x; do z=1; done; echo "Should be 1 but is: $z"
<2> Should be 1 but is:
<11> if you put the code in a function, it'll also open a subshell


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