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<0> I mean
<1> look in /usr/ports/x11/gnome2
<0> ah
<0> there it is
<0> was wondering where it was
<0> saids /japanese/gnome
<0> heh
<0> thanks
<2> unless you read kanji I recommend not using that one.
<3> dhartmei: I didn't follow all of that. so I do installkernel also, so that the .debug one gets installed.. then I save the .debug one and do a non-debug installkernel after that, once I've saved the .debug version?
<4> no, just do it once, but keep a copy of kernel.debug around somewhere
<2> It implies to me that dhartmei is stating to run the one without debugging stuff, but compare the core to the one with debugging stuff.
<3> Mouring: I got the concept, just not how to get there.
<3> so I can just move kernel.debug someone (/var/crash?) and then rm -rf /usr/obj ?
<4> run one buildkernel and one installkernel, after the installkernel is done, backup /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CONFIG/kernel.debug, or just make sure you don't delete it
<3> gotcha



<3> perfect :)
<2> puuuuuurrrrfect?
<4> i copy it to /var/crash/, because that's the first place i'd look if i'd have forgotten ;)
<3> That's what I was just thinking :)
<3> I should have prefixed with time, I wonder how long it takes to compile a kernel on a U10.. I ripped out the unnecessaries as well.
<5> Is there a reason why a traceroute would be dog slow before showing any of the route (like 30-40 sec delay) and then spewing it all out super fast?
<1> filtered icmp.
<5> but that would depend on the site I'm going out to?
<1> intermediate device not having a route to you
<3> dns issue?
<1> intermediate device configured to not respond to icmp
<5> I'm using cogent dns on one server and he.net dns on another... same problem. FreeBSD on both boxes, installed by the same person.
<5> (different machines, different networks, same problem)
<5> it took 1 min before STARTING to show me the route to craigslist.org
<5> it just hangs here... traceroute craigslist.org
<5> traceroute to craigslist.org (130.94.251.6), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
<5> ugh this doesn't make sense. I wish I knew more how to troubleshoot this.
<5> and if I try to do something between the two boxes (like scp) it just hangs here forever after "Warning permantely added IPIPIPIP (DSA) to the list of known hosts."
<5> ah... and then it says connection closed.
<6> kaz, do the first few hops show just *s in the traceroute?
<6> ie
<6> * * *
<6> 192.0.2.12 34.34ms 123.33ms 88.1ms
<6> or does it wait forever before printing the first IP?
<6> if it's the former, then it's filtering
<6> if it's the later, then the first IP has broken reverse dns with respect to you (either by your fault or theirs)
<5> hi figz... no
<5> it waits forever before printing the ip
<5> ie, it will hang here for ~1min: traceroute www.cnet.com
<5> traceroute to c10-ssa-xw-lb.cnet.com (216.239.115.141), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
<5> so I can tell my host to enter in the correct reverse dns and this will solve the problem?
<6> your reverse dns is bust..
<6> or rather
<5> I don't have auth over it....
<6> your dns is unable to reverse the first IP..
<6> well, try this:
<6> traceroute -f 3 www.cnet.com
<5> now its faster
<6> hopefully it's blammo fast
<5> comes right up
<6> ok.. what's the first line you see from a normal traceroute?
<5> I'll msg
<6> ok
<6> it's bust for me too
<3> http://bam.st/4hB -- NewsForge | Canadian election candidate takes stand for FOSS
<5> I'm getting hte same problem on 3 different servers on 2 different networks managed/provisioned by the same guy. So maybe he is doing something wrong.
<5> since that first hop out would be his gateway
<6> whatever servers are listed for that netblock aren't working
<6> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
<6> that's an attempted dig -x
<6> I'd ask he what's up..
<6> since the rest of the traceroute is normal speed, I don't think the problem's on your end
<6> otoh.. it's probably unrelated to the ssh issue
<3> http://bam.st/4hC -- CNN.com - Geocachingputs authorities on edge - Jan 17, 2006
<6> yashy, all those weird people looking under rocks in strange places?
<6> a geogache operation looks very much like a sloppy dead-drop..
<3> I just hid an ammo box geocache as well (the crypto one :/ )
<6> ammo boxes seem to be popular
<6> you can still get em at 3vets, though they used to be almost free..
<3> yup.. probably most popular I've seen



<3> Not sure if you have princess auto out there.. but once in a while they show up at PA here for less then $10 each
<3> Victoria has an awesome store for geocachers and/or antique hunters if you ever go there
<3> Heck, there is a geocache there at the store
<7> yashy.
<6> there's a couple, though even the close one's quite a drive
<6> (the big one's in abbotsford)
<7> did you make ****ing sure you dont hide it near any "terrorist-sensitive" areas? :P
<6> "terrorist-sensitive" is ontario is rather more difficult than washington..
<3> AC-130U: You're not allowed to hide them near bridges anymore :)
<7> *right* :)
<3> but as Figz said
<7> or large buildings
<3> heck, as a tourist you can walk inside the Parliament buildings in Canada tomorrow if you want
<3> advantage of not having the world against you :)
<7> micro geocache
<7> Altoids tin
<3> heck, there are tours every hour at those buidlings
<6> lame that they blame the geocacher and fine him for littering, to justify the incorrect police response
<3> AC-130U: I just rehid one of our altoids tin geocaches ;)
<6> if he'd looked slightly more terroristy he could have been killed
<7> heeh
<3> AC-130U: It was a penguin mints tin, but it was "muggled" (stolen) as it's one of the most popular in the city.
<7> i love altoids tins for electronics stuff
<7> *doh*
<6> west van has caches with value recommendations on the contents
<6> no cheap stuff please
<7> heh, dontcha hate the muggles?
<3> lol I saw that Figz.. craziness.. actually I think it was in Vic.. "nothing less then $4 please"
<3> AC-130U: this one is a heavily muggled area in the heart of the city.
<7> we got 2 geocaches in my town that are kinda heavy with muggles
<7> i've not doen any geocaching because i dont have a gps unit
<7> yet
<7> i've a cellphone that talks gps, but only internally, i couldnt find any apps for it that directly accesses it and shows me where i am
<3> They're really cheap now.. under $150usd for new for an etrex I would guess
<3> AC-130U: a db9 soldering job later, and I have my etrex hooked up to my Kenwood D7-AG so I am on APRS while I geocache (or jog etc)
<6> 5 years and gps receivers will be in cracker jack boxes
<7> hehe yeh
<6> the discrete receiver is dead simple, since it's all an integrated chip now
<3> gps watches will be common is my prediction
<6> even a patch antenna will fit on a postage stamp
<6> yes
<6> all a gps watch needs is to pick up a single from time to time
<6> much less demanding than for location
<3> There's my idea of the night.. APRS in a watch
<6> now, if you want it to tell you where you are.. maybe an antenna in the wristband can be worked somehow..
<3> I wonder how small to get a 144.39MHz FM transmitter in a watch
<6> (tricky, since the a gps antenna is somewhat demanding)
<3> Dianora would have an idea how feasible it is
<7> *guh*
<7> sneezing spells
<7> they got it credit card size, why not a watch size?
<3> yeah, alinco has a 2m Tx credit card sized.. that's right
<3> actually just putting a gpsr on something like the D7-AG would probably be not that difficult
<3> and you could easily wear that around on your belt
<3> as with the cable and etrex gpsr, I have it all easily in a running hip pack type thing
<7> yah
<7> at least you dont have to be like no military grunt in ww2, carrying all that heavy **** on your back, heh heh
<7> even a vietman grunt with the prick-25
<3> I'm a Canadian and not a fan of war.
<7> eh, war ****s, period
<7> i was just talking about the equipment ITSELF
<3> never lifted it personally
<3> but I can imagine I wouldn't wanna wear it grocery shopping :)
<7> haha yeah, it's a beast, so i have been told
<8> The WSJT Working Group is pleased to announce that Version 5.9.2 is
<8> available for free download at http://pulsar.princeton.edu/~joe/K1JT.
<8> It should appear soon on the European mirror site, http://www.dk5ya.de,
<8> as well.
<8> that is what I have been spending some time on
<3> WSJT? Is that the aurora/meteor scatter stuff?
<3> pulsar.princeton.edu is giving connection refused
<3> and I'm on page 4 of a doc for the real estate stuff.. will look later


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