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<bun-bun> compared to us rabbits :)
<Mouring> yashy, on your 386 16mhz I expect it will take forever. =-)
<Mr_You> Carolina Panthers rock!!!
<Yashy> someday.. :)
<Mr_You> rock your world heh
<bun-bun> isnt that the ultimate in encryption.. so strong you can never decrypt it? :)
<Mouring> bun-bun, just because we just don't wield a knife and threaten to kill everyone doesn't mean we are "weird."
<bun-bun> yes thats weird :)
<Yashy> I see an ebay sale I made a few weeks ago, the guy still never paid for shipping. I just re-read his email "Note:Hi i'll pay for shipping later, could you hang onto these while i sort this out"
<Yashy> I think quantum crypto is supposed to be the ultimate in encryption
<Mr_You> nothing is worse than having to deal with a broken network.
<Mr_You> I think I might just turn on DHCP cause I'm tired of it.
<Mr_You> probably the only way to get things workin.
<Mr_You> yeah, I'll just start turning on dynamic network services, tired of waiting around for production hardware.
<Mr_You> this place has 192.168.1.0 ***igned staticly to desktops and everything :-(
<Mr_You> with no list/DNS of what is using what.
<Mr_You> some DNS entries for some.
<Mouring> always keep your own dns list handy
<Mr_You> yah, I had to start my own, its thecompaniesname.com that they allowed some web joker to register under his name. I use it internally.
<Mr_You> :-((
<Mr_You> gonna have to get a lawyers letter sent.
<Mr_You> bbl
<Mouring> "Dear Sir, The following letter is to inform you of the illegal misuse of the copyright "Mr_You". If you persist on using this name you will be fined $50,000 per day until it was resolved."
<Mr_You> heh
<RndPkt> jennifer722
<Hawson> is there a way to ***ign a quota without using edquota?
<RndPkt> echo "10201" > /proc/sys/some/random/quota/interface
<RndPkt> :)
<Hawson> RndPkt: on Solaris?
<RndPkt> I was being glib
<RndPkt> I'm writing my FY06 goals and objectives
<RndPkt> That's not an ejoyable task
<Hawson> it seems there are only 2 ways: interactively with edquota, and noninteractively using a 'dummy user' with the quotas you want.
<Hawson> ultimately, you have to manually edit the quota file at some point--which I don't want to do
<Mouring> Went throught a 1/3 of a gallon of water in 3 hours.
<belter> keep drinking
<Mouring> I'm not drinking it.=-) The air is drinking it up from the humidifier.
<wettoast> damn, myisam is 4x faster than innodb on one of my queries
<belter> ahh, must have some heater eating up your moisture
<Mouring> belter, well.. I have hardwood in my kitchen/Dining room now and new carpet/furniture... And so my house is still attempting to recover from such a major change.
<Mouring> I had to pull out and find the filter for my humidifier due the fact a few times it just takes me walking down the hall to build up static.
<Mouring> If I'm in any other room in the house there is no problem.. Just my redone living room.
<belter> shouldn't take long to re-estabilish your fung shei
<wettoast> its nice to have the automatic repair of innodb, but damn, the speed sacrifice is ridiculus
<Mouring> Raid 10!!! That solves all problems.
<Hawson> except the big hole in the wallet
<belter> why raid 10 over 5 or 6?
<Mouring> faster? =-)
<RndPkt> Actually, I'm now a big advocate of RAID50
<belter> horrible cost to space ratio
<Hawson> RndPkt: writes **** :)
<RndPkt> No
<RndPkt> RAID 50 specifically alleviates that problem
<Mouring> ermm.. hiding a server in a dead UPS/powerstrip.
<Hawson> really? You still have the short write problem....well...hmmm.
<Hawson> 50 is a stripe over raid 5 arrays, or a raid-5 of stripes?
<RndPkt> We setup a 10T database on some fc-al disks
<RndPkt> It SCREAMS
<Hawson> :) I'd hope so
<RndPkt> 50 is stripe over 5 segments
<Hawson> I could see doing the stripe in software, and checksum in hardware.
<Hawson> of course, the FC drives should be plenty quick on their own
<RndPkt> Yes
<RndPkt> In RAID 50 the disks in a 5-group move synchronously
<Hawson> Redunancy isn't as good as 10.
<Hawson> nice
<RndPkt> Sure it is
<RndPkt> How is 10 better than 50 in terms of disk failure?
<Hawson> ah, sorry. Comparing raw numbers of disks--and that won't work
<Hawson> each "group" can sustain 1 drive failure.
<Hawson> just like raid10
<RndPkt> Yup
<Hawson> do you have group or global spares?
<RndPkt> We have one spare per group
<RndPkt> It's 3 8-disk RAID-5 groups + 3 hotspares
<RndPkt> 146G dual-loop FC disks
<Mouring> It seems soo odd that you can't. You'd think that you'd be able to steal secondary bits from the other raid 5 groups.
<Hawson> Hmm... I guess for capacity it's better to have fewer, but larger, groups
<RndPkt> Especially for parity calculations :)
<Hawson> I wonder how performance would be if you have eith 3-disk groups
<Hawson> yes
<Hawson> well--no, avtually
<RndPkt> I still like how Left-Hand SAN works
<RndPkt> Disks are repositories of blocks
<RndPkt> And you have N copies of each block "somewhere" on the system.
<Hawson> takes less time to 2 xors than 7
<Hawson> I've seen those
<RndPkt> That's now PiLLar works too IIRC
<Church> 'lo Rndpacket
<RndPkt> Hey Church
<RndPkt> What's happening in the Baltics?
<Church> hard to tell. as i'm still pretty drunk. ;>
<RndPkt> Ah
<Church> good thing i bought used M$ natural keyboard for home aswell. used one .. (dunno if those are still produced/sold, never found one in local pricelists)
<RndPkt> Yeah they still make those
<Church> it takes short time to get used to .. and after that plain keyboards .. let's say .. just not up to par
<RndPkt> I hate them
<Church> only thing ms natural keyboards are bad - for gaming (non standart placement cursor keys and such) ;>
<Church> otherwise - very comfortable for writing large heaps of text
<Church> not as good as ergonomical layouts like eg. dvorak, but still good.
<Hawson> I have a bad feeling I
<Church> hmm?
<Hawson> I'm going to have to write my quotaset program myself. :-(
<Church> and i thought - bad feeling is 'coz of hangover ;>
<Hawson> no, you're far enough away that you can't puke on me. I'm safe
<Church> hhehehe ;>
<RndPkt> Anyone have a web-based collaboration/documentation tool they like?
<Hawson> someone asked that a few weeks ago
<Hawson> I found a few, but haven't used any
<Hawson> Trac was one....I'm hunting for the other
<RndPkt> I'm trying to avoid asking for another $1100 for software
<RndPkt> I really would like to get Confluence
<wettoast> RndPkt: there is a lot of php based ones out there
<wettoast> i.e. phpgroupware
<RndPkt> Yeah, i've seen phpGroupWare
<RndPkt> I want something that's less kitchen-sink-ish
<wettoast> more groupware
<RndPkt> What I really need is a Wiki software that deals with attachments sanely
<wettoast> opengroupware, phproject.. there is always wiki
<Hawson> http://developer.berlios.de/projects/berlios/
<wettoast> juts look around on freshmeat.sourceforge ..
<Hawson> and "trac", as I mentioned
<Hawson> oaky, homeward bound...
<RndPkt> Hawson: http://www.atl***ian.com/software/confluence/
<RndPkt> This is what I really want :)
<JamieLPD> hey, can you help me - i no u've got beta things -wen i get into a ctcp with sumone trying to give me a mp3 how do i get it?
<Phylum> I'm having trouble mounting a windows share on my FC4 machine. When running smbmount //ip/share /path/to/mnt/point -o uname=uname I get the "libsmb based programs must *NOT* be setuid root" error. I tried removing suid bit on /sbin/mount.smbfs, smbmount and smbmnt and /bin/mount to no avail & running as root executes just fine. I even tried adding myself to the wheel group - Any suggestions?
<Mouring> don't run it as root or near root privs.
<Phylum> Well I'm not - I'm trying to run it as a regular user and thats the error I get. if I run smbmount as root it works fine
<wettoast> you shoukldnt be mounting stuff as non root
<Phylum> pq? I just want read access nothign else
<wettoast> doesnt matter, users should not be allowed to mount/umount file systems
<Phylum> is there a way around this that you know of?
<wettoast> no, mount it as root.
<DigDug> how do i make tar output to stdout instead of a file?
<DigDug> i've read the man pages
<Phylum> but then my regular accoutn can't access anything on that mount?
<DigDug> i still can't figure it out
<Yashy> # rndc status | grep query
<Yashy> query logging is ON
<Phylum> I need to read mp3's but that 's not going to work
<wettoast> Phylum: mounting and file permissiosn are two different things
<Yashy> yet I have nothing in /var/log/messages regarding queries, and I don't have logging defined in named.conf.. any ideas where my query logs are going?
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