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<0> I believe zeebee once stated he/she/it/they worked for cisco.
<1> k
<0> I hate dual existances issues in SQL.
<2> I hate them in life
<2> unless it's a babe
<0> Just verifying the logic to simplify 12 SQLs attempts down to 3 is a pain.
<1> I think mac osx 10.4.5 update qualifies as the smallest osx update ever
<0> what is it just an update to fix their DRM? =-)
<1> one almost wonders
<1> http://www.info.apple.com/kbnum/n303179
<3> i'm piping output of a perl script to egrep, which i'm calling with -o to return only the matching part of lines.. egrep is returning shorter matches of some lines in addition to the full matches
<3> i suspect that egrep is getting fragments of lines thruogh the pipe, and says "oh, a match! let's print it out!" and then after that, it gets the full line and prints the full match
<4> a shorter match will always match unless you constrain the regex
<4> er, never mind
<3> doesn't grep print the longest match?
<4> ya. what's the regex?



<3> if i don't pipe, but instead redirect to a file, and grep the file, all works well, so it seems to be the piping
<4> so stick a sleep 1 in between
<3> it's [a-z]+[0-9]+
<3> well i'm mostly trying to understand why this is happening.. i would have thought grep would only try to match complete lines
<4> depends on its input
<2> http://www.rsf.org/rubrique.php3?id_rubrique=554 Worldwide press freedom..
<0> ermm.. ok.. that worked.. <rather surprised>
<2> simply asking her? :)
<0> yashy, did that two weeks ago and answered without giving a split second thought.. and the answer was 2 letters.
<2> si?
<5> yashy, asking doesn't work you haev to trick 'em
<2> tchang: quickly muttering "no means yes and yes means yes" shortly before asking?
<5> hahahahah
<5> "today's opposite day" "so you wanna go out?"
<5> "oh you said no? sweet! I'll pick you up at 9!"
<5> *runs away*
<0> yashy, may work that way in Canada.. but not here.
<2> lol
<2> Mouring: nah, we're English and French.. it's you guys that would answer "si".. we'd answer "oui".
<0> "no".. <door slams>
<2> slamming the door on her/him isn't very nice
<0> next you'll tell me I didn't get her drunk enough after dinner and the play.
<2> a little alcohol is always a good idea on the first couple dates
<2> lowers the inhibitions
<0> ****s when 90% of your music collection is romance and you're not in that mood.
<6> whats the best way to determine how much power machines are using?
<6> watts
<7> i'd use an ammeter myself
<6> how do you use on eof those? generally speaking.
<7> there are two basic types - inline and inductive
<7> you probably want an inductive one
<8> Ammeter, voltmeter.
<7> a voltmeter would not help much
<6> is that the common way to do it? most IT shops?
<7> we probably know the voltage
<8> Well, if the voltage is already known, you don't need one.
<2> I have a device you plug in the wall after entering the kWh costs in your area
<2> and then you plug in whatever you want, and it tells you how much power it is using, has used, and day/week/month/year costs
<6> can someone url me a potential tool for an IT shop? I'm just curious. Cause boss apparently asked coworker to research UPSs (I love our communication, lack). He said "250 watt" UPSs. I asked if that will be enough and he said I don't know and got pissy (lame). And I said Id on't know either so I'm asking for him.
<7> he would need an ammeter, spuug, if he is to determine how much power his equipment is using
<7> mr_you: go to www.fluke.com and look for a good fluke multimeter
<7> then look for an inductive ammeter probe for it
<9> just look up the specs of all your machines and that should give you a baseline for your power requirements
<7> he wants to know how much power he's actually drawing
<7> rated specs are meaningless in that regard
<6> yeah, that was our first thought but what about machines with 6 HDs, etc.
<6> yeah
<7> mr_you: the problem with an inductive ammeter is that you have to isolate the two legs of power
<7> and clamp the pickup over one leg
<7> you can't do that with a standard power cord
<7> you can do it inside the breaker box for the whole circuit
<6> dude
<6> I said IT shop.
<7> which is how most people do it -- they measure on a per-circuit basis
<6> you know, server room with a bunch of machines plugged into a wall.
<6> s/server/computer/
<7> or you can make a special power cord for testing purposes that you put inline with the normal power cord
<7> if you want to know how much power you draw you have to measure the amps
<7> i usually install ammeters on both the a and b sides of each rack when i do buildouts



<7> that way i can tell at a glance what i'm pulling
<9> the problem with the method you are going about is if you buy a UPS for what you have now what are you going to do if you upgrade your machines in the future , buy another UPS?
<10> er
<10> why both sides?
<6> roycroft: yeah but these aren't racks. Computer room.
<11> I have a question, its probably very silly, but I want to know if its possible to write a shell script that can be hardlinked in the place of a binary to set the propper LD_LIBRARY_PATH and then exec the real binary in place, more to teh point if the original binary is meant to be used as an executable. I can do this in C just fine, but when i have a shell script in place of the perl interpreter to exec perl with a modified LD_LIBRARY_PAT
<11> the perl script seems to be executed by /bin/sh instead.
<11> with the shell scriupt not even running at all.
<11> if i do it all in C instead i get what i expected.
<11> erm i mean the original binary it replaces being n interpreter (perl)
<2> http://wowtwonewraces.ytmnd.com/
<12> hey Yash
<2> evening
<13> hey
<12> What's new with your fine neighbors to the north
<12> err our...
<5> they're denying US citizens entry beyond their borders
<2> not too much
<5> and claiming that the US is to blame
<2> just trying to rebuild server.. turned on the webserver today
<12> That was very random tchang ... :)
<2> tchang: They didn't deny you at the border :P
<5> rnd, i got denied about two weeks ago
<5> yes they did
<12> TO get into Canada?
<2> we even allow freaks like you in tchang
<5> yes
<13> ok i have a weird situation with openbsd i dunno if its a problem or not
<5> no
<12> Maybe you looked suspicious :)
<5> i had a piece of my paper in my hand that formally declared that i was authorized to leave canada
<5> since i was already past the border
<0> almost two days later. <smile>
<12> zibo: ARe you going to tell us of your problem, or keep us in suspense
<13> ok i tought noone listened
<8> Leave Canada?
<13> so i have a new gateway monitor the widescreen 21"
<12> zibo: Ask a question. Don't announce questions or ask to ask...
<12> Generally, if you're not a regular, you're here to ask a question... thus.. ask
<8> Zibo, that's nice... how much did it cost?
<13> and its resolution should be for 1680x1050, works fine on windows
<13> $635 (tax included)
<13> and on openbsd it works fine only with resolution on 1280x1024
<2> If I have 2 nvidia video cards in one winxp machine, can I do dual head?
<12> Did you configure an X mode line to explain the resolution aspects in your Xconfig?
<12> Yashy: Yes
<8> Well, you can put whatever modelines you want into your xorg.conf file... make one for 1680x1050.
<13> i did
<13> when i do screen becomes HUGE
<13> it fits only on 1280x1024
<12> zibo: You need something like this:
<12> ModeLine "1920x1200" 193.16 1920 2048 2256 2592 1200 1201 1204 1242 -Hsync +Vsync
<12> But for YOUR screen
<12> That's my custom mode line for a WUXGA laptop screen, for example
<2> s/debated/debates/
<12> Go for dual-head
<13> well 1280x1024 works well
<12> zibo: Go google for a modline for a 1680x1050 screen
<13> but when i put it to 1680x1050 it becomes like 1.5x the monitor
<12> Actually
<12> I have some on-hand...
<8> That means the video resolution and the virtual X display size aren't the same.
<12> zibo: http://www.devrandom.org/p/20
<12> Those are some 1680x1050 modelines I had when I was messing aroudn with the display on my laptop here..
<13> cool thanks
<12> They go in the 'Section "Modes"' section
<8> So you'll have to create an entry for a 1680x1050 X display as well.
<13> i hope this will work
<12> CAUTION: messed up mode lines *can* potentially screw up a monitor
<13> :|
<13> so which one should i use
<12> No clue
<12> With an LCd, you're probably safe


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