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<0> it will explain it
<0> or you can look at
<0> http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ito_doc/routing.htm#xtocid15
<0> # Path length
<0> # Reliability
<0> # Delay
<0> # Bandwidth
<0> # Load
<0> # Communication cost
<1> # Chicken
<0> # Fried Chicken
<1> # Yes please
<0> # KFC
<1> # When?
<0> Man questioned in 4 NYC stabbings; 3 victims were tourists
<0> O.o



<0> # Now!
<1> # Good! I'm starving!
<1> Idiot customers
<1> they call up and complain my name servers aren't working
<1> I ask them what name server IPs they're trying to use
<1> "10.0.2.52 and 10.1.0.1"
<2> that doesn't make them idiots
<3> yippy.. we lost power for 3 hours at work.
<3> and we have horse **** for a network structure.
<2> we bought a nice generator a couple years ago - we paid a lot of money for it
<0> kitty
<2> the problem is my boss would not get batteries for all the upses we have laying around, and whenever the power would go out everything would shut down because it takes ~30 seconds for the generator power to kick in
<2> lately i've been getting batteries for some of them and now we mostly stay up when the power goes out
<4> tchang: If the cvs server connection type is extssh. Do i just replace pserver with extssh?
<3> what monkey?
<2> within a couple months i'll have working upses on everything
<4> I'm trying to connect to an cvs server with the connecttype: extssh. export CVSROOT=:ext:username:p***word@host.com:/directory . Then I type cvs update. It keeps saying connection refused. What am I doing wrong?
<5> your damned if you do and your damned if you don't
<3> umm.. you don't do that for cvs over ssh
<4> <--- cvs idiot :P
<6> namemeno, is it a private cvs server or is it one you can tell us about?
<4> Figz: it's a private one
<7> http://fafblog.blogspot.com/2006/06/610-changed-everything-run-for-your.html
<6> well, first of all I wouldn't put my p***word into the shell's environment
<6> next.. if you have ssh access to the system that the cvs server's running on, just do cvs over ssh
<6> it requires no special configuration
<4> Figz: thanks. I'll start searching for cvs over ssh tutorial now!
<6> it may be as simple as:
<8> we used to use cvs over ssh here all the time.
<6> CVS_RSH=ssh cvs -d mylogin@cvs.server.example.com:/path/to/module co module
<8> for hybrid development
<8> we finally switched to svn
<8> svn on ssh
<6> biggest problem with cvs is moving directories within the tree (and preserving logfiles when so doing)
<8> repo-moves
<6> other than that, nothing wrong with it
<8> svn allows you do that without manually having to go in and do it
<8> cvs is fine
<6> doing it manually STILL doesn't work
<6> netbsd's done that all over the place, and their log structure is completely screwed up
<6> ie, stuff shows up in logs, but you can't checkout back versions, unless you happen to know where the tree was originally rooted, go back in time and check it out there
<7> hey roycroft, surprise! another sendmail bug
<7> http://security.freebsd.org/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-06:17.sendmail.asc
<7> :P
<9> **** happens, life goes on.
<5> talking of sendmail, we realised it wasn't included in the unix security standards at work. Opps
<10> what color will stand out well on a white page, already used red, blue and green
<11> eucalre: Black? :-)
<5> purple
<2> teal
<10> purple look okay on color laser?
<5> you won't be able to see teal well :)
<5> ;p
<10> kp teal won't contrast well
<2> wettoast: i don't use whatever sendmail is shipped by freebsd so that notice is irrelevant to me - i'll wait to see what the sendmail folks have to say about it
<2> sendmail.org talk about it in terms that are understandable
<2> and they have a fixed version whereas the freebsd alert says there is no fix



<7> uhm, put on your gl***es dude
<7> V. Solution
<7> Perform one of the following:
<7> there is no workaround, there is a fix.
<2> oh whatever
<2> the freebsd notice didn't say anything about particular sendmail versions so i did not pay much attention
<2> oh, not too bad
<7> patchy patchy patchy patchy mushroom mushroom
<12> hi roycroft
<13> any obsd guru?
<2> hello faust
<2> long time no see
<12> good to see you sir
<7> Sadek_: ask
<13> what obsd startup scripts?
<2> ask in complete sentences
<13> What are OpenBSD's startup scripts?
<2> read /etc/rc
<8> look at /etc/rc.conf
<8> they have gone to the one unified rc system as well
<8> hi Sadek
<8> they don't do the host ip setting the same as freebsd though
<8> they do it more like solaris does
<8> one sec
<8> thats fine
<2> /etc/rc looks stuff up in rc.conf
<13> thank you
<2> that's why i suggested reading rc
<13> #2 question please
<2> it points to everything else
<8> ok
<13> I managed to screw up a drive, by running e2fsck on it..
<13> now it wont mount
<8> you will have your IP set in /etc/hosts
<7> Sadek_: that will cost you extra
<13> umm ok :P)
<8> then hostname.fxp for example
<8> then hostname.fxp0 for example
<8> then everything else should be in /etc/rc.conf
<2> i just put the ips and netmasks for the primary and vhosts in hostname.fxp0
<8> you ran the wrong fsck
<8> oh yeah I had forgotten
<2> and don't bother with /etc/hosts
<8> roycroft runs openbsd as well
<8> heh
<2> yup
<8> uh normally you don't run ext2 fs on openbsd
<8> so if you ran e2fsck you would have royally screwed up the fs
<8> try running fsck instead
<2> have
<8> I didn't think there was an e2fsck
<8> so I am wondering too
<7> shouldnt fsck check what its checking before it checks it? :P
<8> I don't have it either
<8> wettoast yeah
<8> it should
<2> this e2fsck is some linuxy thing i bet
<8> sadek: You still talking about your openbsd box?
<8> e2fsck is there to check ext2fs file systems
<8> which is a leenuxism
<7> its not like obsd to have brain dead commands like that
<13> I am talking about Linux
<8> oh
<7> yeah.. go figure
<2> you were talking about openbsd earlier
<8> you just confused the channel
<13> Sorry
<8> I would look for backups


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