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<0> if you're doing a lot of data transfers you should ask for a private network
<0> that goes back to how it's physically set up :P
<1> :S :)
<1> Well... thanks for now.
<2> Quiet night
<0> hey rnd
<0> how you doing
<3> Alright
<3> How about you?
<0> not soo bad
<0> how's the colo doing? any more hardware break? :P
<3> Dunno
<3> Not my project :)
<0> :)
<3> First run of Dell 1850s sure had a lot of problems
<0> do you know what the project is? I'm just curious



<3> Yes
<0> something you can disclose to me or no?
<4> DDoS of tchang's employer project
<0> haha
<4> We're almost all ready
<3> Ssshhh
<3> Don't give it away
<0> (disables)
<4> I'm in Canada.. we have one IP where we have an American run our packets to the border and stuff them into the fiber manually
<0> hahaha
<5> do our nice usian packets help keep your canadian fiber warm?
<3> So, sadly, I'm working on my home network presence disaster recovery plan
<3> The main reason is that my server is hosted at a friend's ASP/ISP and he's disappeared.
<3> Haven't heard form him in ~ 3 months
<3> Doesn't return e-mails
<3> Doesn't return phone calls
<3> AFAIK hasn't been to the business in months
<3> Whole place is on autopilot
<3> So I'm trying to figure my backup plan to get e-mail back if he goes under, which, sadly, seems inevitable
<6> :\
<6> I hope hes ok.
<3> Physically?
<3> I'm sure he's fine
<3> He's done this before
<6> yeah.
<3> But this is the longest...
<6> although mentally would help too.
<3> I don't really care about my webspace NEARLY as much as I do about my e-mail
<3> But e-mail is the sicky part
<6> it constantly amazes me how complex email can be.
<3> My e-mail isn't complex
<3> It's just very important
<6> esp in this day and age where you have to do all sorts of acrobatics to stay ahead of spammers.
<0> hehe
<3> Yes, sadly spammers are overcoming greylisting
<6> dont forget free natural viagra...
<0> v1@gra
<6> argh.
<3> v!gra
<6> greta deals ont he software you need!
<3> 0EM S0ftware
<6> yup.
<7> you guys r 3l337
<7> w8 im2
<8> I created /, /boot, and swap on three software raid 1 partitions in RHEL4.
<8> I disconnected one of the hds to test the set up and instead, it boots to a grub prompt
<8> am I doing something wrong?
<3> Did you happen to disconnect the drive you set as the bootable disk?
<3> GRub won't like that so much
<8> should I be using LILO instead if I want to use a RAID partition for boot
<3> You can't use a RAID parition for boot
<3> Well, let me clarify
<3> It *is* a raid partition
<8> i want to set up this box so that if one hd fails, the system doesn't go down.
<3> But grub nor lilo knows anything about the RAID parition information.
<3> So for all grub cares, it's still /dev/sda1
<8> is there a way to achieve what I'm trying to do with software raid?
<3> YOu're confusing box going down with box booting



<3> The box will not fail w/ software raid (generally)
<3> And you *can* still boot, you just need to tell grub the right thing
<8> is there a way to tell Grub to boot off the second hd in the event the first one becomes inaccessible?
<8> automagically
<3> You could make another menu entry
<3> I don't think grub has an auto-failover capability
<3> So the worst you'd have to do is tell grub to look at a different root
<6> well the drives are identicle right?
<6> why not have a small boot partition on each mirroed drive and a boot block on each drive. with a small initrd that mounts teh raid and boots the system. and haev the boot loader on each drive setup to boot off of that particular drive.
<6> if one bits the dust in theroy the bios could fidn it and boot.
<6> and you woudl get degraded mode.
<3> Um..
<3> That's ridiculously complex :)
<6> hrm my partner (the linux ugy here) says the linux software raid howto has a simpler method using lilo that does what you want)
<6> whichis basicly to install a bootblock on both drives and have lilo boot fromteh raid.
<6> either way it doesnt soudn that complex to me. how else do you get a system that can boot from any remaining drive?
<6> the part where it gets nasty is teh BIOS which with peecee hardware is always a major pain in the ***.
<3> Actually, it's generally not a problem
<3> Because if the disk dies, it won't be seen by the HBA
<3> or you move it
<3> Then it works just as if it was root(0,0)
<3> Or you swap it and rebuild
<6> ahh but what if the drive doesnt fail in such a way that the bios doesnt see it. do it keeps trying to boot from the single drive. ive run across a lot of crappy bioes. either way you would need a working boot block on the ramining disk.
<3> I would submit that if you have something that is so critical that it can't possibly ever fail, you're stupid for using a silly crappy BIOS and thus, by implication, IDE disks
<6> true.
<6> if if that critical I would prefer to boot off of external hardware raid.
<6> and have a hot spare all synced up and ready to go.
<5> disks are not the only pieces of hardware that fail
<6> hot spare meaning a whole second machine ready to fail over to.
<5> there's no point in having a bulletproof disk setup when the rest of the machine is not redundant
<9> anyone familiar with sqwebmail?
<9> I use apache and my cgi-bin is not executing anything instead it just displays a bunch of garbled crap.
<9> Can someone point me in the right direction?
<9> It's on FreeBSD
<10> can you grep for scriptalias in your http.conf and make sure your cgi-bin dir is there?
<5> you've provided very little information
<9> Figz, one sec.
<10> if yes, can you try a more simple cgi? eg, printenv.cgi or similar
<9> ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ "/home/www/cgi-bin/"
<9> DocumentRoot "/home/www/htdocs"
<9> that's what I have
<9> ohhh
<9> wait a minute
<9> that's not the right path
<9> one sec
<9> Terrific
<9> I love you figz
<9> I had the path wrong
<10> okie..
<11> greetings
<11> how is it possible for me to be here and not be able to ping irc.efnet.org ?
<11> ls
<12> a good habsburger sunday morning to you!
<13> Now that ****ed.. We played Red Baron for almost 4 hours and all we ended up with was one plane shot to ****, two that hit each other TWICE.. and my Fokker DVII that flew circles around them, but only was able to get one good shot.
<13> Funny thing is the only plane I hit was the triplane fokker DR1.
<6> i would love ot play more air combat games.
<6> those were always my favorites, stuff like tie fighter wing commander and and secret weapons of the lufwaffa etc.
<13> talon, this is a table top game. And after you know the rules it goes pretty quick, but we were starting two new players so it took time.
<6> heh
<6> i hate table top games. and esp **** like D&D
<6> nothing worse than having to keep rolling the fing dice.
<13> Umm.. This is nothing like D&D.. and there is barely any dice rolling.
<13> http://eviladmin.org/albums/redbaron/
<6> i will take your word for it.
<13> You use those planes with 5' poles that set your height.
<13> You track your speed, and actions and each person moves their plane. Only time dice are rolled is when you shot. To see if you caused any damaged and/or if your gun jammed.
<13> http://eviladmin.org/albums/redbaron/INDEX.5.html This is what I was using..
<14> no offense but that sounds like a terrible game
<14> D&D I can understand, but a game about planes doesn't make sense.
<13> Then flight simulators don't make sense.
<14> I agree
<14> The link is nice though, good japanese reference
<13> <shrug> It is a World War I Ace pilot system.
<13> Requires a bit more thought than D&D. =-)


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