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<0> too much stuff I do I have to do in stages.. so one m***ive regex doesn't work.
<1> all the kerning scripts i wrote 20 some years ago when i was doing typesetting in troff all the time
<1> that's all done in sed scripts
<2> yashy you here?
<2> oooo troff ! I haven't done troff/nroff in ages
<1> but they're not too convoluted
<1> i bet i could dig them out and make sense of them pretty easily
<0> oh.. I've strung together a lot of smaller sed statements together. =-)
<0> I do that daily when I'm doing data cleanup.
<0> but I was refering to mostly perl coding.
<2> If you have to concentrate to understand a line of code at 3am when you get called in to fix something dire, then you wrote it too complex.
<1> but in answer to your question, if the script is deemed reusable then yes, i do document it
<2> which is why I hate perl idjits that write line noise
<0> where people write m***ive insane regex that extract 50 billion vars and fails 1% of the time due to badly formated data that it can't handle..
<0> Hell I've seen 10 lines of 80 characters worth of regex.. and at that point I delete the code and rewrite it.
<3> mouring what about tracing a spool of tangled wires while standing in a reclaim water pit, to try and figure out which wire is carrying the signal
<0> Cabling... I refuse to do cabling. =-)
<0> I walk over to my section of the computer room and have to restrain myself from unplugging every device and redoing it due to all the cables.
<1> it's usually the pink cable that is the troublemaker
<0> my cross over cables are yellow.
<3> we don't talk about the pink cable
<4> ok here lets try this one, how about printing out numbers, it may be like abABcD99& i just need the numbers
<5> Flopp: this is sounding more and more like homework
<3> it could be a cool problem to gleam off credit card numbers
<4> hw?
<4> im 32!
<4> :)
<3> so you took the long graduation route
<4> lol
<0> echo "abABcD99&" | sed 's/[^0-9]*//g'
<0> 99
<0> to steal hawson's earlier idea =-)
<1> the * is redundant
<1> sed 's/[^0-9]//g' file
<0> true
<5> Mouring: honestly, I find heavy use of split, substr, index, etc to be much harder to understand than (a good!) regex
<4> :)
<5> and even mediocre ones
<0> hawson, depends on the task.
<5> agreed
<3> hawson what about perl that was sent through rot13 and uuencode?
<0> And depends on where you came from for a background.
<5> eucalre: what about it?
<4> thank you for the help folks
<1> rot26 is twice as good as rot13
<4> 4 am i need to sleep
<4> :))
<0> Since 99% of my world was C and Pascal I had no regex in my world until college.
<0> and at that point I never really adopted and embraced it.
<5> similar background, but I embraced it. :)
<2> in the old days, we programmed with plugboards and we LIKED it
<3> in the old days you didn't have wrinkles either
<6> dianora: tip and ring, which was your favourite?
<2> ah
<2> new nick
<3> hey it's true
<0> Dia, back when my dad was learning they had to hardwire the connections for the programming, and if he messed up he had to restart the whole project.
<2> because it was mil spec!
<1> one of the big problem with the univac was that by the time you patched in a programme (literally) you'd have to go check the status of all the tubes, because almost invariably one or some would have burned out
<6> why is it.. that on calendar.all, the autumnal equinox is indicated as September 22nd and on calendar.pagan it's 21st? and to top it all off the calendar in my kitchen says 23rd..
<0> we didn't have the modern choice of outsource such things to children in some 3rd world counry sweatshop.
<6> which one is it really?
<1> depends on the year and the timezone, pbug
<0> roy, "Debugging" litterial. =-)
<6> well doesn't it go universal time, ie. greenwitch?
<1> that depends
<5> because that's not localtime
<1> it's usually reported here in localtime
<0> the only real time is "Mouring Time" and that is two degrees off from "Party Time"
<3> mouring i can't see you as being much of a partier
<0> thus the two degrees off =-)
<3> then again, i don't seem to be much of a partier anymore either
<2> eucalre: getting old
<2> and decrepit
<2> I bet you have to go to sleep at 7pm each night now
<0> bah.. and that is sad because eucalre is still a young pup.
<1> eucalre is over the hill now
<5> actually, old people frequently need less sleep
<1> the funny thing is, he quit irc forever when he turned 30
<1> the eucalre you see here now is just a figament of your imagination
<6> heh
<7> he meant 0x30, silly
<6> you're all figments of MY imagination, but it's nice you keep me company
<6> what would I do without my voices..
<1> he said goodbye forever and all that jazz, figz
<7> fooled you!
<3> kp i really don't irc that much anymore
<6> btw, that spacecraft going to mercury needs to be shot down, and the mission planned for neptune needs to be scrapped, ya'll americans need to focus more on feeding the poor
<1> it's unbelievably hard to find a decent wool blanket around here
<7> kp, no hbc blankets?
<3> because polyster is cheaper
<1> there are all sorts of them on the famous auction site though
<1> pbug: we need to get rid of the current occupant of the white house first
<6> roycroft: wrong, you need to get rid of clinton.. he runs the shadow cabinet
<6> dubya is just the scapegoat
<5> I still think pbug has gone loopy
<6> good
<6> wow another day p***es..and I didn't do much
<1> my boss installed a trouble ticket system
<5> I'm sorry
<1> it takes about 10 minutes to enter and deal with a ticket for a 30 second problem
<5> Are you paid based on tickets closed? :)
<1> but today the ticket system crashed
<5> that tends to be lucrative
<1> the user table disappeared
<3> you work for a 2 person company, why do you need tickets?
<1> he's having me recover it from backup
<5> roycroft: ah! so you couldn't fix it,
<5> because you couldn't enter a ticket,
<1> i've spent an hour so far on that
<3> did you ask for a ticket number first?
<5> and you can't do work without a ticket!
<5> :)
<1> i think it'skindof funny actually
<1> and yes, we do need a ticket system
<1> but we need one that works
<5> what are you using?
<3> ARS/Remedy
<1> something that goes with xoops
<1> which is some bull**** "portal" software
<1> i'm going to install rt when i get the time
<3> use ARSPerl, it can handle any portal
<1> rt is pretty poor but it's 10000000000000000x better than this crap
<1> we just hired another person btw
<1> there are four of us now
<1> don't know how the new person is goinna work out
<1> youg girl with a squeaky voice that makes my skin crawl
<1> young
<3> did you ask her 'how you doing?'
<1> i haven't asked her anything
<1> she hasn't started work yet - shejustgot hired today
<0> She could be like the woman from Police Academy. =-)
<5> mean left hook...
<1> i jut hope she isn't into smelly stuff
<1> she sells makeup on the side
<0> hmm.. your department could get a makeover while coding.
<3> i love it when vendors call us
<3> i need to speak to your accounts payable
<3> sure let me transfer you, *click*
<8> im in ur base killing ur d00dz
<8> eucalre: haw
<0> "I'm sorry we fired our accounts payable division.. They were annoying and were stopping us from doing work."
<1> i just want her to not wearperfuume (and have bathed recently as well), not annoy me, and keep customers away from me
<8> ".. accounts who?"
<1> hif she can do those three things i'll be happy with her
<9> at once?
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