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<0> dhartemei: are they the same as obsd?
<1> alternatively, you can install a compat port for the mean while
<2> they're similar, dmarki
<2> but not the same
<3> no completely, obsd doesn't have rc.d
<2> openbsd has not chosen the dark path (yet)
<1> in any case, its all very duable, just gotta do the right things...
<1> err, doable
<1> the dark path? rcng kicks ***, how do you tell a starup script in obsd that it depends on say mysql?
<3> you manually start it before mysql, by thinking where you place the call in rc.local
<4> eh yo
<1> manually? heh, nice..
<3> heya pbug
<4> I hope you all had a fine day
<5> gentoo has a nice service dep tree like that.
<5> handles "required" and "optional" deps quite nicely
<3> the relation between fbsd's rc.conf variables and the /usr/local rc.d scripts is not exactly intuitive at first, if you know what i mean ;)
<3> manual rc.local scripting is at least trivial to understand
<0> this is where linux is better than bsd
<0> or no?
<3> linux is beyond the dark side ;)
<4> yep that i think as well
<3> it sits right beside solaris in utter darkness ;)
<0> does obsd has ports like fbsd?
<3> yeah, those are very much alike
<0> ok
<2> yes, openbsd has ports
<2> i don't use them much so i can't attest to their quality
<0> :)
<0> is there a command to check how many bad blocks i have ?
<2> what os?
<0> fbsd
<2> diskdefect(8) probably does that
<3> ports/sysutils/smartmontools, if you mean the hardware defect list from a SMART drive
<2> most modern drives hide bad block information
<1> no such command roy
<0> I was told in #freebsdhelp
<1> smartmontools would be ideal
<0> "it's left up to the drives/controllers/arrays"
<2> oh, freebsd doesn't have that
<2> oh well
<1> i install smartmontools on every server
<2> no bad144 either
<2> oh well
<0> :|
<1> will email you when disks start to go bad..
<1> dmarki: smartmontools will tell you
<0> a1000?
<2> sun disk array
<0> oh ok
<5> an old one
<0> good luck :P
<6> Amiga A1000. :-)
<7> A1200HD!
<2> i'm really digging this early early dittybops concert
<2> it was before they had their own material, so they were doing standards
<5> and we'll stop the dream right there
<0> lol
<2> they're pure dreams
<2> i'm not that kind of guy
<7> so you're the kind of guy with the filthy dreams, aha!
<5> right, that's my point.
<5> the dream will be boring. ;-)
<2> hmm
<2> the cdrom drive does not work on this netra
<2> i guess i'll have to netboot
<5> yeah, I had to do that with my netras way back when...
<5> all hail the second coming!
<8> it is 6/6/06 :)
<5> I am aware of that
<5> and it's also the wrong number
<8> ya but i missed 6/1/06
<5> we'll crucify you later
<2> the second coming?
<2> is linus going to rise from his drunken stupor today?
<5> oh please. I'm probably the most pro-linux person in this channel, and even *I* don't think he's on the same level as Christ.
<5> He's well above that.
<5> ;-)
<6> Shouldn't it be based on ***tilus instead of June?
<7> someone left jesus in user space and put torwald into kernel space?!
<9> jesus made religion open source -- let the m***es control it instead of an elite cadre
<4> actually that was martin luther..
<9> well if he hadn't done that people wouldn't have been able to poke all sorts of holes in religious logic...good one, luther
<4> I believe he nailed a statement on the ulm cathedral doors, saying that he's going to evangelize christianity
<4> maybe it was somewhere else.. I cna't remember
<2> it was ulm
<7> and then they had a huge campfire!
<2> i guess solaris 10 is the only option from sun anymore
<2> they don't even seem to have solaris 9 around
<2> i'll have to check to see if the a1000 works with solaris 10
<5> Mah-na, mah na
<2> or maybe i'll just look around harder for my solaris cds
<7> roycroft, you mean sell or support the old version ?
<2> i mean support
<2> but at the very least they should have it on their download page and they don't
<2> and solaris 10 claims to require "a monitor or integrated display" for installation
<2> i don't believe that though
<7> heh
<7> even osx doesn't need a display to install
<10> kp: i just downloaded solaris 8 two weeks ago
<5> the source?
<10> ohh no dist cds
<2> then it's not obvious where to find it
<5> I was going to say...
<2> i have solaris 9 cds somewhere
<5> opensolaris?
<2> i think i'd rather look for them than spend any more time on sun's website
<10> http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/9/
<10> not that hard to find
<11> i have sol9 cds here.
<11> (actually, in storage facility, but...)
<11> heh, i wonder why i still have freebsd 2.2.x
<4> hmm
<4> I'm gonna keep my old freebsd cd's
<4> I have 2.1-RELEASE
<4> that was my first one..
<2> i see no need to keep all that old stuff
<12> no sentimental value?
<2> but if you have the space, more power to you
<0> "freebsd 2 cds"
<4> it's a common to not keep old stuff on you..
<0> what year is that?
<2> keepsakes from former girlfriends, etc. have sentimental value
<2> operating systems are just tools
<5> some would say the same about former girlfriends...but I digress..
<4> :)
<13> lol typiskt
<0> whoah. Is the processor market collapsing?
<4> maybe it's just my paranoia, but is it possible a large group of people are trying to ban computers?
<0> I've been figuring the processor market was a bad idea for a while now... most people just don't need faster cpus anymore.
<5> pbug: both
<0> I just bought a new PC with a 64bit dual core CPU, and 32 bit windows
<0> gotta love that. :)
<5> why bother with windows?
<0> It came installed.
<0> And to answer your Q.. because I don't like linux audio/multimedia apps too much
<0> but I'm gonna split it and put a 64bit linux on one drive
<0> :P
<0> Plus, it's windows media center edition
<0> which is like.. pointless
<0> I don't know if it's their attempt at competing with os-x or what
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