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<0> heh http://www.engrish.com/detail.php?imagename=dont-screw-off.jpg&category=Computer&date=2003-11-07 (safe for work)
<1> anyone here familiar with unrealircd
<0> I love the as/400
<2> hahahahahahaha
<2> where's the <sarcasm> tag
<0> someone was trying to tell me that apache is able to write to the log simultaneously
<0> could that be valid?
<3> anyone familiar with legato?
<4> if I still remember.. ahahha
<4> networker?
<3> I'll take that as a "no"
<4> what's your question anyway
<3> Looking for advice, actually.
<4> legato ****s :P
<0> I installed MySQL on a RedHat Linux 9 server. So far so good .. Now I'm trying to get phpMyAdmin working and it's saying ...
<3> Legato is one of those programs that has a billion options, and I don't think that I need to care about msot of them
<0> cannot load mysql extension,
<0> please check PHP Configuration
<4> hawson, go on..
<0> Now .. I've read and read and still cannot find out how to solve this problem ... I've tried the php.ini file uncommenting the mysql.so extension
<3> All I really want to do is keep quarterly backups (lvl 0), weekly lvl0, and weekly incrementals
<4> k
<3> but there's whole mess with groups and pools and directives and policies
<4> hahahahahha
<4> those were fun.. :P
<3> Suggestions on configuring pools for the above requirements
<3> (quarterly, weekly lvl0, weekly inc)
<3> we have an autoloader (24 tapes), and figure that we will eventually need 4 tapes for a full lvl 0
<4> spanning tape?
<3> if you have a partition that is 100GB, and you tape only holds 80GB, you're screwed
<4> how many actual drives do you have in your autoloader?
<3> 2 drives
<4> hmmm I had..
<4> let me try to remember what I have..
<4> I dont know how amanda worked..
<4> works*
<3> quite well
<4> I never used it
<4> ... no.. that's not what I meant
<4> the tape library I used was from storagetek
<3> you give it a bunch of tapes, tell it how far back you want to keep a lvl 0, and it does all the rest
<4> (if I spell it correctly
<3> we have an L25, which is a rebraded storagetek I think
<4> the one we have... is... 4 drives
<4> write data across different tapes at once
<4> legato itself uses the information from barcode to keep track what data/file(s) goes onto which tape
<3> yep. we do taht too
<4> btw.. I am sort of talking to myself...... trying to remember it
<4> you can manually specify which pool..(there is another thing?) does what
<4> each node can exist in multiple pool..group?
<3> what do you mean by "node?"
<4> I sort of forgotten the terminogy
<4> how legato works is.. depending on how many 'clients' you have
<4> 1 client = 1 node
<3> http://www.sun.com/storage/tape/l25/index.xml is what we have
<3> oh, Yes. I can tell specific clients to go to speicifc pools
<3> I don't care about doing that, however.
<4> right
<3> :)
<4> well.. we had... quite abit nodes... so I sorta have to care
<3> this exists primarily to backup a single box with a lot of disk space
<4> you can tell legato to keep the data as long as you want as long as you have the tape(s) available
<5> Legato Networker I liked alot back when I was using it a few years ago. The initial config curve is kind of steep, but once things are in place, it's pretty solid.
<3> if we backup other boxes, nifty, but we don't plan to do so.
<3> yep. we can do that too
<4> I don't recall there is specific limitation
<3> the retention time isn't the issue either.
<3> I'm mostly trying to figure out the best tape management scheme...or at least one that is flexible enough to change later.
<4> the one we had.. I think we can go up to 150 tapes?
<4> in the box
<3> we can do 25
<4> best tape management scheme.. ummm
<4> wait.. I think I actually 'ignore' the scheme
<4> I might have created manual ones..
<3> So, here's a spceicic question for you both: I need to label tapes (so legato knows what to call them). The labels are barcodes, and look like KFF000, KFF001, etc
<3> we have another series that is KFG000, KFG001, etc
<4> yeah.. dont mess up the label..
<3> when making a label template, is that one of the "fields" we define?
<3> e.g. the barcodes themselves say "KFF000".
<3> so should I make the template match that?
<4> no
<4> legato doesnt care, it should have a scanner
<4> grab the information off barcode
<4> ***ocate with the tape, wrote it onto hmmm beginning of the tape I think..
<3> Right. but when I define a pool, I have to ***ign a label.
<3> yes, it does that.
<4> OH.. label
<4> call it whatever you want
<4> doesnt care
<3> this is more to keep the printed lable in "sync" with the "legato label"
<4> if you wish, sure..
<4> it gets very hard to keep track when your tape volume goes up
<3> howso?
<4> ummm let me see if I can explain this right...
<4> the label you put on tape... I don't remember it as have to do with anything whatsoever
<4> you can call it monkey set
<4> kitty set
<4> legato does not care
<4> it cares about the barcode
<3> right.
<4> so label is up to you
<3> and you give the "set" a "name" that is whatever you'd like.
<6> Cats don't come in sets.
<4> that's for your information, how you would like to keep track
<4> you could put... the date you label the tapes
<4> what happened with my setup is..
<4> since its single library... it backup everything.. production/stage/test..etc
<4> so the label became meaningless at the very end
<4> when you wish to restore information
<4> legato tells you
<4> I need KFG0034 KFG0099 KFG0300
<3> well, here's our setup:
<3> 60 tapes. 1 autoloader (2 drives, 24 slots). 1 backup client
<3> (there may be more clients, but we won't split those onto seperate pools)
<3> That's it.
<4> okay
<4> just 1 back up client?
<3> well, 1 that we care about. We'll probaly have 2-4 more later
<3> but really just one.
<3> (the client is the primary fileserver with a few TB of data)
<1> how do i start up unrealircd
<1> i just got done configuring it
<4> if you wish to further making label actually mean something, you may have to ... ***ign tapes pools
<4> 24 tapes..
<4> tape pool 1-8 9-16 17-24
<3> 3 different pools?
<4> yes, I think you can group them
<3> that sounds bad, actually. :-/
<4> I think!
<4> wait wait.. you are seeking for suggestion for....?
<4> backup policy?
<3> No. tape management polciy.
<4> it seem to me the thing you 'care'... legato doesn't care...
<3> the backup policy--by which I mean "schedule" is already set
<4> k
<4> so.. let me ask you this.. what's your current tape management policy?
<3> I understand that I can just ***ign tapes to a pool, and that legato will deal with the specifics
<3> Battosai: there isn't one. THis is a brand new setup.
<4> but you using amanda
<4> are/were
<3> right, but that's a different "system"
<3> different hosts
<3> different server, different tapes, etc
<3> it *is* the software I'm familiar with, however
<3> See amanda is nice, in that it does all of the scheduling automatically, based on size estimates
<3> before the backup runs, it computes to space required for the backup (estimating compression), then bumps or promotes the backup level (i.e. lvl 0, 1, 2, 3, etc) based on the most efficient use of the current tape.
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