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<0> which means that the many problems are, in my view, not fixed on purpose
<1> eg. ship with sensible shell for both scripting && CLI usage in default installs .. or add more administrating functionality changeable from shell to name some possibilities.
<0> yep
<1> IIRC one could do only dhcp renew via doze ipconfig, no?
<0> that's still true I think
<1> and command.com with bat files or for interactive usage .. when one gets used to bash/ksh/zsh/alikes .. it's _so_ freaking lacking
<0> you could disable/reenable the interface--that would do it as well
<0> yep
<0> there's also a fairly deep architechure limit for shells as well
<0> Windows is designed for multi-thread programs
<0> and no serious effort was made to make fork() fast
<0> unlike *nix--where mutli-process is the rule.
<0> so shell pipes, etc, are SLOW
<1> imho i'd like macosx more only because i can fire up term with normal environment there aswell ;>
<0> yeah, the problem with OSX is that it is only superficially like Unix. :-(
<0> (IME)
<0> Here's a nice property listing: http://realtygroup1.maryland.remax.com/listings/ListingDetail_r4.aspx?LID=18121536
<0> "CABIN UNSAFE. ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK"
<2> that's a lot of money for something you shouldn't go inside
<0> the cost is mostly for the land I think
<0> 13,000 is lot of land in that part of the country
<2> yeah
<2> it may be said that Leet is used as a means to defeat regular expression engines used for matching content in written communication.
<2> misfire
<3> My sever is very slow generating thumbnails...
<3> http://www.devrandom.org/coppermine/albums/pics/trips/phipps_2006_04/normal_IMG_2356.JPG
<3> I think that one turned out pretty nice.
<4> phalaenopsis?
<3> Yeah
<3> They had a lot of orchids
<3> http://www.devrandom.org/coppermine/thumbnails.php?album=24
<3> The whole day's photographs are here
<5> blech
<5> illustrator is beating the crap out of me
<5> and i don't know how to fight back
<5> a letter to adobe will be forthcoming for certain
<5> i have defeated illustrator
<5> but i'm still writing a letter to adobe
<6> morning
<7> Morning.
<8> pbug: you get into work very late eh?
<6> war: mondays I don't work
<6> lonely lonley monday morning..
<8> pbug: oh, only work 4 days a week or work on weekends or something
<8> ?
<6> 1 day a week
<6> sunday
<6> yesterday I had off because I had to work saturday instead
<9> hi ;]
<10> south of her shoulder, and west of her spine
<6> oh wow, July 23rd slobodan became president of yugoslavia..
<6> now that fits too, why does everything point to slobodan? poor slobo
<6> oh well serbia started world war 1, why not world war 3 as well right?
<6> black hand vs. golden hand
<6> if chinas was terra aphrodite then yugoslavia was terra ishtar...
<6> ok going for a walk *wave8
<11> O_O
<12> ok, I watched the Fat Albert movie this weekend and now I can get... "nah nah nah, gonna have a good time" out of my head.
<13> just start singing the gummy bears song
<13> gummy bears, bouncing here and there and everywhere
<12> don't know that one.
<13> well now its stuck in my head...thanks
<14> i wonder if there are gummy bears dvds
<14> i miss that cartoon
<14> and tailspin
<14> and darkwing duck
<13> hehe
<12> those ****ed compared to animaniacs.
<12> and those two mice.
<12> "naaah naaah naah, gonna have a good tiiimme!"
<15> morning
<6> re
<6> just had a meeting with the KGB, gave him a 20 euro bill to pay, he gave me 7 something in change and I left at 25 minutes after the hour...
<13> high adventure that's beyond compare, they are the gummy bears
<12> haha
<6> at the 420 I had a meeting with a grey heron, twas nice :P
<6> I think the message relayed was this:
<6> * 1990 - Comedian Roseanne Barr grabs her crotch and spits on the
<6> ground when performing the U.S. national anthem at a San Diego
<6> no wonder he got visibly upset
<16> hi
<16> I know that this is a little stupid question, but if I have a .c file what I have to do to run it? :)
<4> almost no legitimate software is distributed as plain .c files without documentation
<16> I think how can I compile it
<16> but somebody else say that there is an app called gcc
<16> for that
<17> .... that's compiler
<6> heh
<6> no you know what? I'm gonna stir up some ****
<6> I'm no hermes for fsck's sakes.. someone deactivate me if they think otherwise
<18> whats "better", hearbeat or keepalived on linux systems
<6> aren't they one and the same?
<6> keepalived sends heartbeats
<18> well theyre two different programs/ packages
<18> from what i understand
<19> this a clustering app or something designed to keep connections alive over crappy NAT implementations?
<18> well right now im just heartbeat+drbd for a few nfs/samba server
<18> and that works fine
<18> but im wanting to make a ha ldap resource that does not only failover but load balancing
<18> cause my current one is just a single openldap server
<18> and im starting to get too many connections
<18> id just set up a few in master/slave configuration, but linux's ldap library can **** it. it doesnt work right
<6> URL: http://www.linux-ha.org/
<6> that's part of keepalived right?
<18> well theyre two seperate projects
<6> afaik the cluster multicast heartbeats just like openbsd's carp, when one station stops beating another will send a gratious arp to take over connections.. but it's not perfect as some hardware doesn't react well to gratious arp anymore
<6> or I may be wrong, if I am let me know
<18> i was just casually asking in here if anyone has compared the two and had any opinions
<18> ill be setting up a test cluster after lunch
<20> Hello, should I go on installing mandrake or freebsd? What do you guys suggest me please
<18> on what
<19> freebsd is not Linux. mandrake is Linux but almost died as a distribution between v9 and v10
<20> what distro is a good one to install then, I don't want to be silver spoon fed but I am a beginner as well. I've just heard BSD has better security or is that wrong?
<19> properly maintained they're all probably comparable, security wise.
<19> out of the box they're also all probably pretty well secured - typical installs usually don't present very much to the network to be attacked.
<19> but mandrake and freebsd are very different animals
<19> what is a better question is
<19> what do you want to do with this install
<19> or what do you want to teach yourself with it.
<20> I want it on my laptop for networking and such.
<20> and yeh, I want to teach myself with it
<20> I'm a beginner.
<18> well
<18> if youre looking to use it as a workstation
<18> id suggest ubuntu linux
<20> I don't want something that will silver spoon feed me, but then I also don't want one that is going to overwhelm me
<18> as a server... a file server or a router or something
<18> either debian sarge, or freebsd
<20> what would you suggest Doc?
<16> it is possible to compile symbian apps on a unix system?
<20> ok siezer.. i get you
<18> mdaher especially since ubuntu has a very friendly "newbie" community, both on irc and on the web
<16> where can I find source for symbian SDK?
<16> becouse the files on the symbian.com is already compiled but those are for win
<18> http://www.koeniglich.de/sdk2unix/symbian_sdk_on_unix.html
<21> anyone aboot to help with some OSX terminal commands?
<16> sdk2unix-1.9.tar.gz?
<19> what do you want to do?
<21> my buddy told his mac to ignore permissions on his ext hd and now it wont let him access it
<19> oops
<21> yeh, thats what i said lol
<21> he was trying to configure an ftp server and thought that was the place to make it so no one but the admin could access it
<22> blizzard.com updated
<22> lol
<22> diablo 3 announced, 2008
<21> DocRadium so any help?
<19> I **** at MacOSX
<21> not being pretentious... but i thought the entire thing was built on unix
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