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<0> i remember my first partitioning job
<0> i was scared too
<0> but u just gotta grab the bull by the horns
<0> back up your precious data
<0> and do it
<0> and that was on slackware 96
<0> :P
<1> i've done it a bunch of times with other flavors of linux, but usually it tells you its going to mount the other OS, etc.
<0> ubuntu does mount the other OS
<0> better than fedora does
<0> it has NTFS drivers ready to go
<1> yeah but it says, "Warning, all data on all partitions will be destroyed"
<0> only on the ones selected for reformat
<0> you already have the drive partitioned out right?
<1> yep
<0> then dont worry
<1> and the types set and everything
<1> EXT3 for the root and SWAP for the swap
<0> ya ya
<0> do it to it
<2> lol
<1> ok
<1> but
<1> i will die if it formats my winxp
<3> no, you will be freed
<0> do you have life insurance?
<1> hah
<1> no life insurance.
<0> get some before you install then
<0> consider your family
<1> i think i will take this laptop and sling it up against the brick wall
<0> reinstalling xp isn't a big deal
<0> back up your precious data
<1> hz
<1> yah
<0> ubuntu installation is pretty straight forward
<0> i wouldn't worry if i were you
<1> werd
<0> i doubt the installation has the capacity to format a NTFS or FAT32 partition anyways
<1> better do some burning of the precious data then, heh
<0> always
<4> sure it does
<1> its ntfs
<4> format doesn't mean replace the exact same filesystem ;)
<0> true
<1> it would just format it ext3 probly
<0> ya
<1> ok now to burn the backups
<1> **** wish i had a dvd burner instead of lowly cd burner
<4> you can pick up a decent one for $50US
<1> yah
<1> but i have a laptop
<1> so it would have to be an external
<4> bummer
<1> and they're 100 or os
<1> so
<0> i bought a 300 gig external hd for $220
<3> I think I've used my dvd burner once
<4> you can pick up an internal 250 for about 70US hehe
<0> really
<1> yep and put a shell on it and usb it
<0> i'll have to get one once I get a desktop pc
<0> i dont like have this laptop as my only pc
<0> limits my options
<0> i want to play with plan9
<4> yeah, if you're in the US, check out newegg.com for good prices
<4> plan 9, there's a strange OS ;)
<1> heh
<0> i wonder if i could get it installed on something like vmware
<4> iirc vmware was released as a free product now, so you can always try
<2> crimsun: can you tell me specifically what you meant by compiling in support for my ide controller?... Its like, the controller is ICH and i don't see anything under ATA support.. my FS types are all defined
<2> sweet jesus.. i think i found it
<5> I run fedora, why does everyone that reads www.digg.com use ubuntu
<2> ubuntu has gained widespread popularity and attention
<2> its just another linux distro, but it became known as very user friendly
<2> just one of those things i guess
<2> it does build rather well with alot of support right off install
<5> so it's just easy to install and use
<5> so it gets alot of freindly supporters
<5> cause no one's pissy about installing it
<5> since linux is wicked cool, it just happens to get more supported users
<5> cause it's easy to use already and instantly installable
<2> more or less, yea i guess
<5> what else is neat about ubuntu. besides. fast installing, with little interaction with the user to install it
<5> I heard something about scripts
<5> like, umm. there's a database of scripts to automate processes that people make and contribute
<2> i really couldn't tell you-- i've been using linux distros on and off for years but i'm definitely no expert
<5> some that tweak the ui
<5> ect..
<5> but you are a ubuntu user right?
<5> or one of the buntu distros
<2> presently, yup
<2> i've run redhat, fedora, debian, suse, knoppix blah blah
<2> this has definitely been the most painless
<5> what was painful about fedora?
<5> depending on hardware, all linux distros would react the same way
<5> if you got a lot of winware crap, that doesnt work right in linux. it aint gonna be any better until better kernels can handle them later as they are built
<2> when i used a fedora core, at the time alot of hardware support wasn't built in as it is now
<5> right. I was on that point
<2> yep
<5> but! as a user freindlyness
<5> overall do you respect the forums for open support and what not?
<5> because I use "fedoraforum" and find very little h***le in finding information I need
<5> I think the trick to useing linux is not to expect it to "be windows"
<5> once you get that down
<2> yes definitely, i would say that the ubuntu support forums are wonderful and theres much more in terms of 'community' support and howtos
<5> everything slides like greezed silverware right out of your hand
<5> :P
<5> I find a freindly forum an acceptable reason to use a OS
<5> comfortable ways to fix problems is important
<2> definitely, and the thing with linux is that its a constant challenge
<2> its rather time consuming
<2> that in itself can be a detterent for new users
<5> fc5 hasnt been for me -
<2> generally end users want something that 'works'
<5> what bothered me before, was video issues
<2> the fuss has to be eliminated-- hence so many users behind macs
<5> here's a major issue example :
<2> these are my personal views of course
<2> ok
<5> if there's a kernel module for nvidia cards, the kernel gets updated, the mod doesnt, so they de-sync
<2> yes, thats a good point
<5> so the user supported modules have to be recompiled and distribtued
<2> they should be able to integrate the two
<5> so you gotta wait around before you can update kernels. soly on your video card module
<5> they should beable to.. but havent not yet
<5> but. with fedora, the repo manuagers are taking responsability for that these days
<5> and sending out the compiled modules with the kernel updates at the same time
<2> yea, i digress to what i was saying... its a challenge and alot of the times you have multiple kinds of dependencies
<5> so even a reboot doesnt distrub settings
<5> I was in total shock this week when I updated the kernel to find the module came down with the update
<5> it's like a new system they'e working to make this stuff go smother
<5> is ubuntu doing this also?
<2> i couldn't say
<5> how often do kernels get released
<2> but generally new kernels do attach recent modules?
<5> not from my experiance
<5> the modules are developed exterior of the kernels
<2> i'm about to test that with 2.6.17.*
<5> so a new kernel may pop up
<5> but the people developing modules for hardware may be on vacation
<2> i'm compiling that as we speak, basically because i have a block problem with a mmc device
<5> The "Kmod" modules might be somethign new
<2> and i've been told the update is incorporated into the new kernel
<5> depends on your video card chipset
<5> like branding
<5> ati/nvidia are popular but there's hundreds of models/chipsets
<2> the thing i don't like about linux distros, is that to me its more of a 'if it ain't broke don't fix it' mentality
<5> some support glx differnt
<5> that's not the case these days shizident
<2> its like just getting things working is the key-- making them work rather well is a seperate thing that lays as a lower priority
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