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<0> theres a themes tab
<0> i told u i was retarded
<1> yeah. I found it too
<1> I use the default one
<2> i usually do but im playin around customzing tonite :)
<3> get the
<3> BERYL desktop
<3> it ownz
<3> hey mellar u around?
<3> is it easy to update to 6.10 ?
<1> should be. ubuntu gets a lot of critics when it comes to upgrading though
<1> just edit the /etc/apt/sources.list and type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
<3> hrm well im debian.. i though 6.10 edgy was for it too
<3> maybe not though
<4> i hope this isn't a stupid question, but: is this the Ubuntu LInux help chat?
<3> yes
<4> cool
<4> !
<4> i have my Ubuntu 6.06 CD can anyone direct me to info on how to setup?
<4> a url or something?
<4> i esp. want help w/my internet connection
<3> u just load the cd
<3> and click install
<4> ok
<4> i used SUSE 10 before but this may be a lil' diff.
<4> SUSE was a lil' much for me
<4> I'm still in a Windows mindset
<4> the screen resolution was messed up when used it in live cd format, or is that normal?
<5> normal till you get your drivers set up
<5> at least for me
<5> ubuntu = easy
<4> ok
<4> i have a Dell Laptop that's 6 y/o will ubuntu run okay on it y'think?
<3> hehe
<3> as long as ur cd drive doesnt ****
<4> hehe?
<3> i got an old dell im running debian on
<3> couldnt get ubuntu to work
<4> why would it ****?
<3> cuz my cd reader was so slow
<4> hm
<6> patience is a virtue
<4> it seemed to work ok, just the screen was messed up
<4> hi bushblows
<3> nah it would all stop awol
<3> i waited longtime and it just stopped eventually
<4> hm
<3> so the netinstall for debian worked great though
<3> eheh
<6> DeAdO: did you try waiting.... to see if it was thinking? the live cd does that ya know... just sits for ages while it does stuff in ram
<6> debian is good too
<3> yea.. i really did wait
<4> ubuntu is based on debian isn't it ?
<3> it made my cd play7er make weird noises
<3> eheh
<6> ubuntu is just a very slick polished debian
<3> like it was searching for **** but could never find
<3> lol now u makin me wanna try it again
<4> awol: ok
<4> can redhat, suse, etc apps work in debian/ubuntu?
<6> DeAdO: it's a live cd.... it crawls as all the binaries and libs have to be found on the cd
<4> i think that was a lil' sticking point for me
<6> Mtn_Man_: ubuntu has 20,000 apps all available via a single mouse click.... more than other distro's
<4> awol: whoa
<4> i tho't i would try to backup everything, my program files etc before making the switch, in case i didn't like the result..
<7> Can someone help me setup my nic so I can connect to the internet?
<5> sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.10
<5> or .0.10
<5> ?
<5> is the card getting an ip, i should ask that first
<7> no it isn't
<7> i've connected it directly to the modem, and also through a switch
<7> the nic *is* active although it is integrated
<5> need to lspci i think, and get the info about the NIC itself, and try the ifconfig thing, manually giving it an ip
<5> i mean, thats what i would do
<5> and im no guru by any means
<7> well, I'm not too familiar with the console to do that. but I have tried doing it with the GI and it hasn't worked
<7> I'm new to linux and I've heard that some integrated nics don't work so well because of driver availability... so with that theory I tried installing a nic that I know has worked on a fedora core 4 and m0n0 wall system
<5> might need a driver of some sort
<7> do exe's work in linux or is that a windows only extension. I found a driver download that says its for windows and linux but I thought exe was windows only
<6> linux doesn't use file extensions.... everything's just a file to linux
<6> .exe's are just a crappy windows format and linux doesn't need/use them at all
<6> Robbieyou need to learn to sometimes use a command line if you want to succeed with linux
<6> if ya cant do that then go back to windows is best
<7> so then the file would probably work then?
<6> torn: and ifconfig commands require a netmask or they fail as the default netmask is 255.0.0.0
<6> RobbieB: nope
<5> ah yeah, thats what i thought
<5> i always had mine as 255.255.255.0
<5> i think
<6> RobbieB: open a terminal windows from the accessories menu... and type a few simple commands into it at the prompt
<7> I only have one keyboard that I'm swapping right now, type and I'll see what happens
<6> RobbieB: lspci will list the devices on the pci bus and we'll need to see the lines for your nic's
<4> how do you do international characters in linux?
<4> it's not like windows, alt + 0123 or whatever
<7> awol: It's a Broadcom BCM4401
<6> wifi?
<7> I searched clicked the linux link on the broadcom site http://www.broadcom.com/support/ethernet_nic/faq_drivers.php#tg3
<7> no, integrated ethernet, following that link doesn't give me any download
<5> probably gonna have to use ndiswrapper
<6> RobbieB: i'm going to ***ume it uses the bcm43xx driver.... as i dont know any better
<6> RobbieB: sudo modprobe bcm43xx <-- the command to load the driver....
<6> torn: ndiswrapper is for wifi and many wifi cards have linux drivers now...
<5> yeah
<7> awol: done, now what... restart?
<5> RobbieB
<5> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=268629#post268629
<6> RobbieB: no
<5> woth a shot if awol's method doesnt work
<5> says it should be in the kernel tho
<6> RobbieB: reboots are a windows philosophy you NEVER have to reboot with linux
<6> RobbieB: except when you install a new kernel
<7> one sec
<6> i been using linux for well ove adecade now.. i ran my own wireless isp... i think i know what i'm doing by now
<7> I wasn't questioning your suggestion I was swapping keyboards
<7> works perfect now thakns
<6> RobbieB: okay to make it work on every boot ya need to add a line to a config
<6> RobbieB: i'll make that easy for you....
<6> RobbieB: at the prompt type --> echo "alias eth0 bcm43xx" >> /etc/modprobe.conf
<6> let me know if ya get an error
<6> that file may not even exist
<8> has anyone had problems with kernal panics VFS not syncing for newly compiled kernals ?
<8> I figure there's something amiss in /boot/grub/menu.lst
<7> awol: bash: /etc/modprobe.conf: Permission denied
<8> but it was all autop configured by dpkg -i
<6> RobbieB: add an sudo in front of the command
<6> i keep forgetting about sudo... my bad
<7> k one sec
<6> RobbieB: at the prompt type --> sudo echo "alias eth0 bcm43xx" >> /etc/modprobe.conf
<7> I'm pretty sure I'm typing it exactly. but it keeps saying permission denied
<5> it shouldnt if you have sudo before it
<7> I typed sudo
<5> then it should ask for your pw
<5> then give an error after, if its gonna error ever.
<6> hello?
<7> it isn't asking for a p***word
<7> i made sure I have the proper spacing before and after quotes and >> etc
<6> nah sudo gives ya 5 minutes after ya give the p***wd before it asks for it again
<6> well doing it more than once will actually badly mess up that file so now ya gotta edit it by hand
<7> I just navigated via file browser and I don't see that the file exists
<6> RobbieB: do this ---> sudo nano -w /etc/modprobe.conf
<6> it may say it's a new file?
<6> if so close it and dont add anything... we'll work with a diff file...
<6> easiest is to just add bcm43xx to /etc/modules
<7> okay, what came up was a line that said
<7> GNU nano 1.2.10 File: /etc/modprobe.conf and New File was highlighted
<6> but there are numerous ways to do the same things with linux and many ways to get drivers working... some are technically more correct than others
<6> Robbiectrl-x out of that
<6> bah blasted nick completer
<6> RobbieB: does /etc/modules file exist?
<7> yes
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