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<0> another thing that's been getting on my nerves too, is that it can't seem to remember my roots p***word very well
<0> SOMETIMES it'll work, othertimes it'll just tell me'sorry'
<1> use sudo. you have to remember that p***word
<0> well obviously :P
<0> I only have three p***words.
<1> it is the same p***word you have on your user account
<0> well im installing openssh and ill try again after to login with WinSCP
<1> Chizad: is this a server with a lot of other users?
<0> no
<0> it's running on VMware
<1> ok :)
<0> I just need some area to put my PHP/MySQL ****
<0> so I can do some work
<1> webdesign
<0> yes
<0> trying to =D
<0> but in my race to just get things working
<0> i found myself having more issues.
<0> lolz
<1> I really wanna type my websites in Java, but I don't have the time to learn everything by now
<0> why Java?
<1> servlets, safety, the language, the pages will be faster since they are compiled the first time you look at the webpage
<1> "the language syntax"
<0> hmm
<0> I've never even looked at Java
<0> I've only been trying to work with web standards.
<1> you've only used php as a programming language?
<0> Yeah..
<1> ok. then I guess you would stuggle a bit in the start
<0> I feel like I should have a good grip on one language before I try to learn others.
<1> that might be a good idea
<0> But I have definately thought about learning others..
<1> I know, Java, ***embley, C++, php
<0> How long have you been doing that
<1> bash a bit. I don't know if they think of it as programming
<1> 4 years?
<0> Right on, I've only been doing this a few years off and on so I'm still learning lots of the major concepts.
<0> Been trying to get into more OOP
<1> yes. Object Oriented Programming is vital
<1> it's a bit hard to learn with php, since it doesn't support OOP 100%
<0> Would Java still be work learning?
<1> it is better with php5 though
<0> worth*
<1> you use Java for a lot more then making websites
<0> We arn't talking about Javascript, right?
<1> not javascript and not java applets
<0> Cause I didn't know people used Java that much for sites..
<1> java servlets and java server pages
<0> I mean, I've seen applets around, but never a full java site.
<0> Oh, I see.
<1> yes but this isn't java applets either. this runs serverside just like php
<0> ahh
<1> Chizad: http://www.bergenskart.no/bergen/index.jsp
<1> this site uses Java
<1> .jsp is java server pages
<0> interesting.
<0> Maybe I'll look into it. :)
<0> Java Servlet Programming ?
<0> I got an e-book on it. :)
<1> Chizad: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JavaServer_Pages
<1> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Java_servlets
<0> It probably gets easier to learn other code once you're familiar with some concepts or what?
<1> they say it is pretty easy to learn another programming language when you first know one
<0> Yeah, cool. :)
<0> Do I need to configure apache with another module to run .jsp files or what
<1> I use the tomcat webserver
<1> I install suns java and tomcat
<1> you also need a mysql/java connector (same stuff you do with mysql and php)
<0> ah
<0> Hmm
<0> I'm kind of interested now, cause I've always liked the way you can do .... whats the word, 'better' stuff with it as servlets and stuff.
<1> yes. but it's a bit hard to get started
<1> this is more strict then php
<0> how so
<1> installing tomcat isn't just apt-get install tomcat
<1> and tomcat uses xml to structure the files. in php it doesn't matter where you put your files
<0> hmm
<1> in java you have to say the variable is a string, object, int or double. in php you just declare the variables with $ and not what kind of a variable this is
<0> I noticed that, actually.
<1> java gets a lot easier to read
<1> Chizad: but typically the website gets divided up in two groups. the programmers uses java servlets, and the webdesigner uses java server pages
<0> ah, I see I see.
<0> you got any code, that I could read as sample? Maybe something fairly simple?
<1> yes. i can see if i have anything on my server
<1> Chizad: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/5Slhsr46.html
<0> Hmm
<0> that's not too bad.
<1> :)
<1> ok. I'm going to watch some football
<0> Okay man, take care.
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