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<0> hey kneel. how'd your installation go
<1> awesome :)
<0> right on
<1> rdesktopo works great for work
<1> i need a few things that i cant seem to install
<1> managed to get java working with firefox :)
<1> like i found a linux version of the VPN client my job at IBM uses, on AT&T's site, its a binary but when i type ./setup it said i dont have some lib<something>++6* library so i installed some similar ones through Synaptic and then made a pointer file to the closest one like it and it worked but now i get a new different error :D
<1> yeah now i get this:
<1> kneel@kneel-laptop:~/ATT$ ./setup
<1> ./setup: symbol lookup error: ./setup: undefined symbol: __builtin_new
<1> couldnt install putty cause its source code, so i just have to use terminal and ssh manually to all of the 100's of sun webservers we support at work
<2> so from wht i understand: I can't use dual monitors in ubuntu, such as windows does with a docking station w/ a laptop, using only one vid card?
<2> the workspace feature would kick *** if i could use diff monitors
<3> WHY WONT MY w32codecs WORK!?
<3> or in other words
<3> how to install them on ubuntu dapper 6.06



<4> read it http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper
<3> gstreamer dvd plugin not ported to dapper yet. following instructions will not work properly
<3> fun ...
<4> if you're refering to gstreamer0.8-dvd package, it is ported and works correctly. The thing about a wiki is that it doesn't work unless people change it
<3> but it doesn't
<3> i have downloaded it
<3> but the thing is, 6.06 does not use gstreamer 0.8 network, it uses 0.10
<4> looks like there is a full 0.8 avaliable, if you're having problems with 0.10, install full 0.8
<3> i have
<3> besides
<3> if i want to uninstall 0.10
<3> it tells me i need to remove ubuntu desktop
<3> wich is basicly everything
<4> no, the ubuntu-desktop package is not everything. The ubuntu-desktop package depends on a **** load of files, the files do not depend on ubuntu-desktop, you can safely remove ubuntu-desktop without problem, though it is used for upgrading certain packages, but not necessary
<3> and where did mplayer go?
<4> apt-cache search mplayer
<3> kmplayer - media player for KDE
<3> ksubtile - subtitle editor for KDE
<3> mga-vid-source - Kernel driver for the back-end scaler on Matrox cards (source)
<3> tea - small text editor with syntax highlighting & UTF support
<3> kmplayer-base - Base files for KMPlayer
<3> kmplayer-doc - Handbook for KMPlayer
<3> kmplayer-konq-plugins - KMPlayer plugin for KHTML/Konqueror
<3> nothing
<3> of relevanse
<4> sounds like you don't have quite a few packages avaliable, have you set up 'universe' and 'multiverse' in your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
<4> it's all described in the link i gave you
<4> ubuntu only uses 'main' and 'restricted' by default, you have to tell it to use the other two repositories
<3> you mean in deb http://no.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper-backports main restricted universe multiverse
<3> this?
<4> as outlined in the guide
<4> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Dapper#How_to_add_extra_repositories
<3> sry
<3> so used to the yum way
<3> <3 yum
<4> you can use a gui front end (synaptic) if you want
<3> yum is the redhat pakadge manager, it is text based
<3> noone seem to know that
<3> :P
<4> when i managed RH systems i always used apt-rpm and up2date, never yum
<3> it is quite new
<3> but it is lovly
<3> i bet you managed redhat 9 systems?
<3> :P
<4> yeah, unfortunately
<4> from about v4-v9
<3> yeah
<3> yum was released in Enterprise edition 1
<3> and is now in all Red-Hat systems
<3> Including Fedora
<3> well, now apt-get list all the pakadges atleast
<5> der ja
<5> thanx for the help, got it to work
<5> ;D
<4> np
<5> my repos was broken, and i didnt have libxine-extra repos
<5> :P
<6> alright ubuntu people
<5> time for traning
<7> |Sin: #437 (4815 clicks) Tcl: 09:56
<5> ;D



<6> sup ferro
<4> nudda
<6> i think i hate samba
<6> with a p***ion
<4> who doesn't, I think it's more of a hate for the windows filesharing setup, samba tries to reverse engineer what they can
<6> authentication can be annoying
<6> when you have samba users, and try and browse the share from a windows machine, the windows machine tries to auth the user locally?
<5> who cares?
<6> the auth box appears, and in the username box says WXP5\james
<5> Linux ftw
<4> no idea, don't deal with samba much, only when i'm scanning the uni's connected computers for open shares :P
<6> ;)
<6> NFS FTW
<4> NFS is evil in itself
<4> but necessary ;)
<6> yes yes
<5> NFS?
<4> network file system iirc
<5> haha
<5> yes
<4> not Need For Speed :P
<5> NFS:HP FTW =P
<6> HP ?
<4> highway pursuit
<6> is than an old one?
<4> yeah i think so
<4> they kept on releasing reskinned versions, i lost track
<5> me 2
<6> http://www.nfsg.net/nfshp/ doesn't look to shabby, rating of 9.21
<5> the last one i played was undergorund something
<6> 1999 release
<6> underground was good
<4> hot pursuit, highway persuit... close ;)
<6> most wanted is the most recent and it gets boring
<4> yeah, i finished both 1 and 2 of UD, was ok
<6> apart from you get to total police cars and get chased by choppers
<5> is there a default root p***word in Ubuntu
<5> i never saw a request for a root p***word
<5> during install
<4> no, there's no default root p***word. Ubuntu tries to take out the whole 'being root' thing to reduce security implications
<4> if you want to "be root", then the command 'sudo -s' will give you a root shell
<4> if you want to execute a command with root priveledges, then use 'sudo' infront of the command. Example: sudo /etc/init.d/vsftpd stop
<5> or
<5> just su
<5> ^_^
<5> i hate the idea of just using sudo
<4> you can't su to root, because 'su' will ask for the *root* p***word, which doesn't exist as such
<5> so i just had to reset the root p***word
<4> yeah, there ya go, removed a nice layer of security, good stuff
<5> thankyou ^_^
<5> it is security i dont need
<5> seriously
<5> stop beeing so paranoid
<5> btw
<5> a ubuntu guid told me to go root in tty1
<5> and you can tell me how to do that without a root p***word
<4> i already did tell you
<5> whats so bad with "su" anyways?
<5> if you can use everything with sudo, what then is the security risk with a root account?
<4> first of all, you should 'su -' if you do use it, otherwise you do not get the intended users environment variables. Secondly, the 'root' user is common to nearly all Unix variants (which includes linux, and bsds), this allows for various attack attempts to be utilized, knowing a username (and a priveledged one at that) allows an attacker a starting point, if you remove the ability for root to spawn a smell proc via authentication means,
<4> it's one more step in preventing unwanted access
<4> sudo also allows for more refined priveledges to user groups, the sudo ability you have been in privy to is only the tip of the iceberg
<4> s/smell/shell/
<5> im the super user
<5> so i should be able to do anything with sudo
<5> and
<4> i guess you're missing the point, if you wish to know *why* sudo is impliemented in ubuntu, i suggest some googling
<5> if i dont run servers, and dont allow remote root access, then there is no problem
<4> no, that's only half the problem
<5> i just dont se the big thing about removing the root account
<4> then i, once again, suggest you google
<5> and if there is a security risk becaus the name is root, then just make a root account with a diffrent name
<4> which would break a very large number of programs and scripts
<5> btw


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