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<0> torn: see what kernels are available with apt
<1> torn: what does uname -r say now?
<2> 2.6.17-10-generic
<2> i saw newest is 2.6.19
<2> and 20 is out f7
<2> r7*
<1> that's the latest kernel ubuntu uses.... yup
<3> awol: ok, then i need to install a new driver to the kernel=
<2> ah ok
<0> Haffy: you haven't installed any driver to the kernel?
<1> if ya want a newer kernel be prepared for things to not work properly and ya have to build yer own
<3> Mellar: As I said, I dont know what the system have done. But I have not manualy installed any driver
<1> Haffy: afaik ubuntu ships with a ralink driver in the linux-restricted-modules package... all ya need to do is learn how to configure it
<2> meh, i guess if there was a huge security hole, ubuntu would push the new kernel through
<3> awol: thx man
<1> Haffy: the rt2x00 wiki will teach ya how to manually config it...



<1> Haffy: not sure how ubuntu's network manager gui handles it... i never use the gui's
<0> torn: you can get a more optimized kernel from the mirrors, if you haven't allready done that
<1> torn: ubuntu ships most recent stable kernels with any necessary backported fixes
<3> the wiki on ubuntu.com does not work, but the wiki at gentoo-wiki.com does
<0> default kernel in ubuntu is 386
<2> ooh, no i havent
<0> torn: amd or intel?
<2> mine is 686 i believe -GENERIC
<2> intel
<2> p4
<2> os[Linux 2.6.17-10-generic i686] distro[Debian testing/unstable] cpu[1 x Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.26GHz @ 2.27GHz] mem[Physical : 1010MB, 55.1% free] disk[Total : 370.57GB, 49.40% Free] video[nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600/GeForce 6600 GT]] sound[]
<2> sorry :<
<1> the default generic ubuntu kernel is 386 but is already configured for SMP and many other optimisations
<2> was trying to get it to just show my cpu and stuff
<0> torn: sudo apt-get install linux-image-686
<0> http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=linux-image&searchon=names&subword=1&version=edgy&release=all
<2> this gonna mess anything up, like am i gonna have to redo any of my drivers, or should it be fine?
<0> you didn't compile you own kernel, or did you compile any modules?
<2> hrm.... is the nvidia driver a module or no?
<1> it should pull the corresponding linux-modules packages
<2> ok its done already
<2> that was quick
<0> ok. if you installed a nvidia driver from the ubuntu mirror, then you didn't compile
<0> if you downloaded it from the nvidia-webpage and also needed your kernelsource, then you compiled
<2> another question, any clue why gnome messes up the arrangement of my "start" menu icons, like my Apps button is in the middle, it was fine before i rebooted, now this time its all out of order, and i cant seem to find a way to change them around
<0> torn: guess it must be something in you local user configuration file
<0> less likely you have changed something as root
<2> yeah, cuz if i kill the bar, then restart it after i have deleted everything, it comes back to stock
<2> but, i lose all my shortcuts i put on it, but once i restart, it goes back to being messed up
<0> think I would have tried to delete the configuration-file
<1> rm -rf ~/.gnome or .gnome2/ or whatever it is....
<1> then next login it'll recreate the defaults
<2> argh
<2> i just upgraded java
<2> and now it magically reverted back to the old version
<2> how the hell
<1> what does /usr/java symlink point to?
<2> there is no /usr/java
<2> seriously, i just went through like a 3 hour ordeal upgrading java last week, limewire was working great
<2> everything was fine
<2> and it decided to get rid of itself at some point in time
<1> well ya may need to double check the last install.... follow the directions again
<1> it takes me less than 3 mins to install java
<2> what guide should i use
<2> the one on the forums is for old version
<1> i just follow the directions at sun.com
<1> the only "trick" is ln -s /usr/local/jre1.5.0_06/ /usr/java
<1> to create the java symlink for limewire to work
<1> i always put java into /usr/local/ tree
<2> hrm
<2> theres so many versions of java
<2> jav***
<2> SE
<2> JDK 5
<2> JRE 5
<1> you want the java run time environment... or java-jre
<1> the jdk is java development kit
<1> and the SDk is software dev kit
<2> awol i cant find /usr/local/jre*
<2> you sure thats the default dir?
<1> torn: you installed it elsewhere then...



<2> i installed default
<1> that's NOT the default dir... it's just where I put it... as it makes most sense
<2> ah ok
<1> i do things my own way... according to traditions i learnt many years ago
<2> well i found it, its on my desktop ;/
<2> horrible place for it to install to
<1> mv it to /usr/local imho
<2> can i just move it somewhere else and be fine, or should i delete it, and run again
<1> and do the symlink like i said above
<2> wtf
<2> i did that
<2> and it still tells me im running 1.4
<1> try using locate and/or find to find where the other install is
<1> 1.4 of what?
<2> ./usr/lib/jvm/java-1.4.2-gcj-4.1-1.4.2.0/bin
<1> wrong package
<1> ya need the jre one
<2> torn@edgy:~/Desktop$ frostwire
<2> Starting FrostWire...
<2> Java exec found in PATH. Verifying...
<2> 1.4.2-02
<2> jre-1_5_0_11-linux-i586.bin
<2> is wha ti just installed
<4> hey
<4> ?
<4> can anyone help me with installing xlg
<4> ive tried everything
<4> xgl*
<5> hey guys
<4> hey
<5> whenever i have to install a program through the terminal everything goes ok until i get to the ./configure step, it always gives me this error, checking for gcc... gcc
<5> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
<5> whats the deal with that?
<1> particle: sudo apt-get install build-essential
<5> thale fix it?
<1> particle: 20,000 prebuilt apps are just an apt-get away
<1> particle: why ya wanna compile stuff when it'll probably hose yer system?
<5> yeah i know, but ive already got the app, now i need to install it
<5> what do you mea hose my system?
<1> particle: you ever heard of "dependancies"?
<5> on alcohol
<5> yeah
<1> particle: compileing stuff by hand means the package database wont know it's installed so anything that depends on that package being installed as a package wont know it's there and thus will fail to install
<5> ok
<5> so i need something before i compile?
<1> particle: never compile stuff unless yer sure ya know what yer doing
<5> ok
<1> particle: what app ya trying to install?
<5> well all the websites ive been getting these apps from say ive got to compile
<5> is there another way i can get them procompiled?
<1> particle: apt-cache search blah to see what's available with blah in it
<1> particle: websites usually dont know ****... dont believe everything ya read
<1> particle: sudo apt-get install nmap
<5> well if its from the developers website i tend to belive them, is that a bad idea?
<1> particle: go to your menus... System -> Administration -> Synaptic and use the gui to find anything ya want
<1> particle: you will need to ensure that all repositories are enabled... you want to enable Universe and Mulitverse repositories
<5> ok, ill google that
<5> i enabled this one
<5> uhm
<5> shizer
<1> particle: yes it's a bad idea to believe them.... ubuntu ships with EVERYTHING you actually need
<5> ok
<5> cool
<1> particle: unless 20,000 free software applications is not enuf for you?
<5> oh its def enough
<5> =D
<5> thanks awol
<5> the linux master
<5> awol: so what do i do after sudo apt-get install nmap
<5> i cand find it in the applications menu
<1> that's because nmap is a command line app
<1> you want the gui version
<5> yes
<1> sudo apt-get install nmapfe


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