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<0> an option with zero volatility is just a future, is it not?
<0> well that poor bloke who received a huge inheritance in 2000 and used it all to buy QQQQ's
<0> lost a ****load... what im interested in is how could he have mitigated his risk
<1> real estate and gold are 2 huge alternatives
<0> they were then, yes
<1> they always are
<0> well i've seen 2 real estate crashes in my lifetime
<2> did you lose your inheritance inthe q's pitz?
<1> it depends on where you're looking =]
<0> no jcv_ , lol
<0> jcv, but a relative is coming into a good amount of money.... but wants to lay off some of the investment risk, ie: buying at the top of the market
<2> tanto
<2> site broken
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<1> i know
<1> lol
<1> i need to fix that too
<0> jcv, a run of futures contracts i guess would be ideal... go long the underlying, and short contracts for each month for the next few years
<0> i wish we had single stock futures or good ETF futures
<0> theres just no way of hedging Canadian exposure easily
<0> outside of ETF options
<2> my money should transfer today
<2> should have an IB account by next week
<0> IB can be slow
<0> on that ****
<2> why do you say that
<2> ?
<0> they took like a week and a half
<0> to set my acct up
<2> you're canadian
<0> ;-)
<0> yeah
<0> they received my verification cheque
<2> ahh you had a check
<0> and it took 3 days after they acknowledged receipt
<2> i do everything ACH
<0> well no.. i did electronically
<2> it's electronic
<0> but they require a cheque from Canadians
<0> for $1
<0> for anti-terrorism verification ****
<0> heh jcv_ , let me know if you can get third-party ACH to work on IB
<0> how does ACH work anyways? do you set the transfer to go from your bank to IB?
<2> Welcome to the IB electronic registration system. Our accounts are geared towards professional traders, and we have the following account opening requirements:
<2> Good or extensive product knowledge for any product you wish to trade.
<2> Prior execution of 100 or more trades (any product).
<2> Interactive Brokers requires a low monthly commission minimum of $10 ($3 for customers 25 years old or younger). We maintain the strictest of privacy policies, so you can feel confident that any information entered will remain confidential.
<2> prior execution of 100 or more trades!
<0> lol i lied about the 100 trades
<2> do you have to prove that?
<0> well i did 100 mutual fund trades
<0> hehe.. but only about 10 stock trades in my life
<0> at $30/trade with the brokers here...you don't do much trading ;)
<0> no you dont have to prove anything... they just dont want n00bs on their system.
<2> at 10.99 i don't do much trading
<0> if you lie... they can hold that against you in court
<0> if you sue them for something....
<0> they just want to be sure.... that they're not dealing with a n00b who will sue cuz their broker didn't tell them something...
<0> like some ****head would probably sue because the interface is too complicated for a simple n00b mind.
<0> you know how that **** goes, eh?
<2> 39 trades so far
<2> that's what i've done
<2> of which 18 were free
<0> i did 600 last year on mutual funds
<0> hehe
<0> 200 this year so far
<0> as i sell my funds off... and move the cash into IB to buy ETFs
<0> it sure makes for a wicked mess at tax time though
<2> hrmm
<2> i'll try to get an account with IB anyway
<0> poor auditor will be in tears if they have to figure it out, lol
<2> if they don't accept me
<0> yeah you'll have no probs
<2> i'll figure something out
<0> just put down 39 trades, 2 years experience or whatever
<2> yeah
<0> as long as those questions aren't filled with zeros
<2> i can hang with the big boys
<2> heh
<2> i'll write that
<0> i wonder... how one actually votes shares held at IB?
<2> i just want low commissions
<2> so i can make more money
<2> on every trade
<2> and lose less
<2> on teh losers
<0> yeah... i dont care about voting.... but i wonder if its possible to vote IB-held shares...
<2> !calc 39 * 10.99
<3> 39 * 10.99 = 428.61
<0> yeah
<0> you'll love the interface
<2> !calc 39 - 18
<0> at first it blows goats
<3> 39 - 18 = 21
<2> !calc 21 * 10.99
<0> to learn and ****....
<3> 21 * 10.99 = 230.79
<2> i've paid amtd 230.79 in commissions
<2> !calc 800 - 230.79
<3> 800 - 230.79 = 569.21
<0> lol
<2> !calc 2.3 / 8
<3> 2.3 / 8 = 0.2875
<2> that accounts to almost 30% of my total losses
<0> losses? wow
<2> yeah
<0> i guess, flat market and all
<2> i made some stupid plays
<2> that i shouldn't have
<2> wasn't thinking
<0> yeah i lost half my (at the time) life savings
<0> on Nortel
<0> lol
<0> scared me ****less
<0> swore off buying individual stocks ever again
<1> lol
<1> i've made all my lifes savings from individual stocks
<0> tanto, you just found some gems? or did ya make some crazy bets?
<0> or do you have/did you have a system of fundamental analysis?
<4> less overhead if you get indiv stocks
<0> well ETFs overhead is negligible
<4> if you get funds, someone is being paid 'managing' in some way
<0> 0.09% MER is nothing
<0> thats $90 on every $100k. big deal
<0> my ETF is 0.17%, soon to be reduced to 0.16%
<0> err my main ETF holding
<1> .q siri
<5> SIRI (sirius satellite) last: 4.99 0.00 0.00%, range: N/A-N/A, vol: 0
<0> yeah Phule, and those 'managers' usually cause underperformance
<2> .p2
<5> Portfolio:
<5> PPA 100.00 (17.2800) 1728.00 +8.34%
<5> TRRDX 175.03 (17.5000) 3063.01 +2.10%
<5> Total portfolio value for jcv is 1.0075 +4.27% ($196.01) gain
<2> ugh i'm so dehydrated
<2> i hate being sick
<1> jcv
<1> reload the page
<1> and scroll to the very bottom
<1> .q jsda
<5> JSDA (jones soda co) last: 7.89 0.00 0.00%, range: N/A-N/A, vol: 0
<2> cool
<1> i had to redo some stuff ot make it work over those time frames
<2> it's an interesting concept
<2> goodnight
<6> not quite going to sleep just yet
<6> .p2
<5> Portfolio:
<5> PPA 100.00 (17.2800) 1728.00 +8.34%
<5> TRRDX 175.03 (17.5000) 3063.01 +2.10%
<5> Total portfolio value for jcv is 1.0075 +4.27% ($196.01) gain
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