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<0> he doesn't live like it though
<1> must be funny if MSFT has a really volatile day and drop say 10%
<0> neither does Buffett
<1> so Gates loses say 8 billion on paper or something
<0> i would have cashed out if i was gates
<1> i've heard roman abramovich is largely cashed out
<1> he owns some huge boats, a soccer team or 2, and rest is largely cash money honey
<1> this is why i have 2 basic guidelines
<1> 1) cash is king
<1> 2) more is better
<0> yeah, well the ceo of michelin had some huge boats... and he just died today
<0> boating accident
<1> heh
<1> are there oil ETFs?
<2> yes
<3> jcv: check out webx
<1> i mean that jsut sit on stockpiles of crude
<3> better than IIP.
<1> ?
<2> USO
<1> do they actually sit on the physical commodity?
<1> like a gold or silver ETF?
<0> yes
<1> wicked
<0> USO is the one you want
<1> it's a bit worse i guess, cause storing it is more expensive than metal i think
<1> though perhaps less security is needed, so maybe it balances out
<1> plus you have to rotate it, i think crude shouldn't sit for too long
<1> you'll probably ahve to cycle the inventory every once in a while
<2> im not sure how that workd
<1> with gold you'd pay for the vault security, insurance, etc. but rest is easy
<1> with crude you'd have to pay for the storage tanks, and every once in a while you'd sell it and rebuy 'fresh' crude
<2> i dont think you need fresh crude
<1> i'm ***uming
<1> really?
<1> it lasts?
<2> it sat in the ground for millions of years
<4> .p2
<5> Portfolio:
<5> AMTD 50.00 (18.0000) 900.00 -8.16%
<5> PPA 100.00 (16.7500) 1675.00 -2.95%
<6> yeah champi0n
<5> TRRDX 175.03 (17.3500) 3036.75 +1.23%
<2> whats another few months
<5> IIP 900.00 (1.1400) 1026.00 -17.99%
<5> Total portfolio value for jcv is 7.75315 -4.59% ($-319.24) loss
<6> oil dont go bad ;)
<1> hmm, maybe, but underground conditiosn are different than a tank
<4> word, i gained back like $400 in value in my portfolio this week
<1> plus i think they do a bit of preprocessing after they pump it
<2> not sure
<1> anyway, but if you had a soft commodity ETF
<1> like sugar or wheat or soy or whatever, then you'd have to cycle it
<1> i wonder if they've done that yet
<2> yeah
<2> not sure
<6> yeah there will be ETFs for everything
<6> by the time this boom is over
<4> ETF's are the new revolution
<1> pork belly ETFs
<4> they are great investment vehicles
<1> ( :
<6> hogs, soybeans, beef, pork, chicken, lamb
<1> pork bellies are everyone's favourite commodity
<6> disgusting!
<4> what are you, mortimer from trading places?
<6> you won't find them in a j00's portfolio ;)
<0> except jews and muslims
<1> i wonder if they'll allow pork belly ETF trading on the Tel Aviv and Dubai exchanges
<1> :P~~
<4> no way
<4> i ****ing love bacon
<1> haha
<4> and porkchops
<1> jooze eat bacon?
<1> :P~
<0> jews do too, but they can't admit it in public
<4> heh
<4> i admit it
<4> i eat pork products
<1> muzzies do to
<4> it's goood
<1> those rotten bastards sin like crazy
<4> with 3 o's
<1> muzzies and jooze are all about show. give the appearance of religiousity, but inside they are rotten sinners
<2> a-rabz
<4> you know
<1> aye-rabs, and eye-raqis too
<4> instead of being ignorant
<4> you should speak for yourself
<4> and stop generalizing about a population of people
<1> dude, i'm only joking
<4> last i checked, tone doesn't translate through text
<1> speaking of that region, their markets wree red hot the past year
<1> but they suffered a big correction last few weeks
<4> israel tanked when sharon became a vegetable
<1> yeah, that's not surprising
<1> that guy was bad***
<1> say what you want abuot him, but he was one savvy politician
<1> if Bush was half as smart as him the US would be doing far far better
<4> if bush wasn't president the US would be doing far better
<1> yeah
<1> ****in Iraqi crude production is down to less than half what it was before the war
<1> that's jsut ****ED
<1> and before the war it ****ed already
<6> psilo- the gulf of mexico is still ****ed
<6> and hurricane season is beginning ;)
<1> yeah, and nigeria has their militants, and so on
<2> buybuybuy
<0> no, the gulf is ripe with oil
<0> ready fro the taking
<3> ripe like a 16 yo girl
<1> the deeper fields are coming online soon
<0> yup
<0> but the enviro-wackos won't let us drill
<1> they're tapping big fields in 3 to 4 miles deep water
<1> and deeper
<1> 5 or 6 miles reservoirs beneath the water surface
<4> lol did you hear that castro and china are going to dril 45 miles off the coast of florida for oil
<0> yup
<4> or cuba
<1> like mosquito tapping a malaria ridden jungle-bunny
<4> depends on your perspective
<0> because cuba and china don't have enviro-wackos
<1> i thought each country had 200 miles of economic exploitation
<1> ***uming it doesn't infringe on another country's zone of course
<1> is 45 miles the halfway point between cuba and fla?
<7> environ wackos
<7> thats why they live in filth
<7> yeh
<7> its not possible for china to achieve the same growth as the other asian tigers
<1> huh?
<1> their growth is even higher dude
<4> new post on http://marketlinks.org
<7> growth rate
<1> the official numbers say a bit over 10% annual growth in real GDP
<1> but unofficially people estimate it's closer to 15%
<1> that's ****ing sick
<7> rate is a flow
<7> people often get confused
<1> the official numbers are supposed to understate the exports contribution to GDP growth
<1> i know what growth rate means
<7> japan and korea grew differently than china
<7> anyway
<7> ITS FRIDAY NIGHT
<7> whats your excuse
<7> oh ur in .au
<1> yeah
<1> it's early sat afternoon here
<1> ****in ****ty day out too
<1> cold
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