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<0> through ameriturd
<1> yeah
<1> it was $60 roundtrip
<2> .no you don't
<1> at my last broker
<2> you pay 19.98
<2> foo
<0> oh
<0> 19.98
<0> whatever
<0> point being
<2> that's like 9% diff
<0> $10/month < $19.98 round-trip
<1> break-even for me is like 4 trades a year
<1> hehe
<1> actually on forex
<1> i save easily the account's cost
<1> just on my forex needs for vacation alone
<1> IB charges a flat fee of $3.50 for forex + 0.0001%
<0> only thing that ****s about IB is their interface
<1> my bank charges 1.5% of the transaction
<0> simple as that
<1> their interface ****s? nah
<0> it's designed for day-trading
<1> so?
<0> <--- not a daytrader
<0> ;)
<1> well it takes like an hour to learn
<1> just dont fire it up
<1> if you aint a daytrader ;-)
<3> hmm
<3> anyone have citibank?
<0> no citibank ****s balls
<3> yeah
<3> heh
<3> INGdirect is good
<1> lol
<3> however
<3> citibank
<3> add investment accounts
<3> We currently support the following financial institutions. Proceed to add your investment account by selecting a financial institution from the list below.
<3> look what they offer
<3> i can transfer money between both my citibank and ameritrade
<0> great
<0> it's called
<0> ACH
<0> automated clearing house
<0> nothing new
<3> yes but u cant take moeny OUT of ameritrade from ING
<0> you keep transferring money like crazy and the IRS is gonna audit you like the little bitch that you are
<3> and i can't put money IN
<3> yeah i know
<3> heh
<0> lol
<3> the lady warned me
<1> my bank told me a boogeyman story once too
<1> about if i keep depositing $20k or $50k at a time
<1> and do it enough, and in cash
<1> the mounties would want to talk to me
<1> haha
<1> hasn't happened yet
<0> lol post-sept.11 anything over $9,999.00 issues a red-flag
<1> sometimes, before they activated me for bill payment
<4> .qx fro
<5> .qx FRO (last: 32.15 +1.33%) (28.80 - 47.10) (EPS: 8.11) (div: 25.59%) (O/S: 74,825,000) (float: 38,916,000)
<1> i would take $20k out from one bank
<1> walk 2 blocks
<1> and deposit to another
<1> hehe
<0> lol
<1> so whens california real estate crashing?
<0> only $0.51 to break even on ppa
<1> i feel like moving, hehe lol 'g nigguh
<6> pitz hasn't happened yet
<6> prices still rising here
<1> ****
<6> maybe wait another 5 years
<1> damn, i'd consider panini , if i could get a non-recourse loan
<1> with zero down
<1> is there such a thing?
<1> in California?
<0> hrmm
<6> dont think so
<6> those are mostly for farms
<0> the median home price in california is $550,000
<6> well
<0> the median home price in the USA is $265,000
<6> in the poor areas
<0> panini: do you know what median means?
<1> ****
<6> near me, the median price is about $1 mil
<6> yes i know what it means, do you?>
<0> did i say "the median home price near panini"
<0> ?
<0> no
<0> i said
<0> "the median home price in california"
<0> as in
<0> the entire state
<1> ......"Twenty-nine percent of borrowers who took out mortgages last year have no equity in their homes or owe more than their house in worth, according to a study"
<6> i know
<1> wtf?
<4> !q nfi
<7> NFI (NOVASTAR FINL INC) - 4:00pm: .85 Change(+0.35 +1.11%) / Opened(31.96) Lastclose(31.50) / Range: Daily(31.71 - 32.00) Yearly(24.08 - 42.55) / Volume(436300)
<1> stocks are less risky than real estate
<1> yet nobody would dream of lending me more than my portfolio's value
<1> why the **** do they do that on housing?
<6> because they can foreclose on it
<1> they can foreclose on my portfolio too if i pledge it
<1> thats just...****ed up
<6> well, they're betting the price of the hosue wont go down
<1> yeah, and if they do....what an utter disaster ;)
<6> then the value of the collateral will be less than the loan
<6> but in CA, the price has never gone down much
<1> ummmm
<6> at worst, it's flat for a couple years
<1> do you remember the mid 90s?
<1> Orange County?
<6> and we have an endless stream of illegals to push up the price
<1> practically the entire population of the county was bankrupt
<1> or technically insolvent
<6> yes that was a local bubble
<1> i hope they put the housing index derivatives on the CME soon
<1> so i can short them
<6> you can short related indices
<6> like housing construction
<6> or mortgage companies
<6> or REITs
<1> well i'd rather short the housing index.... rather than the builders, which have already been shorted the **** out of
<1> ie:
<1> .q TOL
<5> TOL (toll brothers inc) last: 29.08 +0.65 2.24% (Vol: 3770700) Daily Range: (28.57-29.28) Yearly Range: (26.46 - 58.67)
<1> .d TOL
<1> .f TOL
<8> .d :: TOL :: No Dividend
<8> TOL :: O/S: 154,785,000
<8> TOL :: Float: 115,950,000
<1> damn. The USA has to raise Canada's entire national debt every 100 days
<1> just to remain afloat
<1> from the bond market
<6> see Toll is still going up
<1> well im more worried personally
<1> about the $14/hour wal-mart cashier
<1> who just bought a home with no-money down in LA
<1> worth $500k
<6> what's the command to show short interst
<0> .stats xyz
<5> Key Statistics for XYZ: http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=XYZ
<6> thanks
<0> np
<6> 12.3% short
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