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<0> jcv: what's apex?
<1> or eventually
<2> Super_BQ btw are you canadian?
<1> !return 1.51 1.65
<3> The Return rate for 1.51 -> 1.65 is: 9.27152317881%
<1> should have bid lower
<0> panini: Canadian 'non-resident' living in New Zealand
<2> ok
<4> brb on quest for food
<5> .google ameritrade apex
<6> http://www.ameritrade.com/apex.html
<1> i pay it and i live in the us
<1> heh
<2> level 2 quotes are fun to watch some time
<1> foreign witholding 15%
<2> how much is the income tax in NZ??
<7> super_bq level 2 doesnt nec. tell you who the exact bidder/asker is
<7> thatsd level 2 book
<0> oh so Apex is just a premium service?
<7> costs more than level 2 price
<8> !s digg
<3> DIG.V(DIGGER RES)
<7> level 2 price just shows you how many order and how muhc total volume at that depth
<2> it tells which market the bid came from
<8> !q dig.v
<9> DIG.V (DIGGER RESOURCES) - 9:30am: .40 Change(0.00) / Opened(2.40) Lastclose(2.40) / Range: Daily(2.40 - 2.40) Yearly(0.65 - 3.50) / Volume(0)
<10> !q tpx
<0> panini: my friend.. there is NO CAPITAL GAINS TAX WHATSOEVER!
<9> TPX (TEMPUR-PEDIC INTL) - 3:24pm: .88 Change(-0.17 -1.41%) / Opened(12.03) Lastclose(12.05) / Range: Daily(11.74 - 12.03) Yearly(9.41 - 25.00) / Volume(870300)
<10> oh doe
<0> panini: you know what that translate when you play stocks?
<2> Super_BQ: awesome!
<2> Super_BQ: yeah, it translates to megabucks :)
<1> !q prvb.ob
<9> PRVB.OB (POWDER RIVER BS G) - 3:27pm: .315 Change(-0.035 -10.00%) / Opened(0.35) Lastclose(0.35) / Range: Daily(0.31 - 0.35) Yearly(0.07 - 0.54) / Volume(815935)
<7> which market?
<7> tsx has only one market, tsx
<2> Super_BQ: did you relinquish canadian citizenship then?
<1> !q wroc.pk
<9> WROC.PK (WICHITA RIVER OIL) - 2:29pm: .0001 Change(0.00) / Opened(N/A) Lastclose(0.0001) / Range: Daily(N/A - N/A) Yearly(0.0001 - 0.0003) / Volume(0)
<8> what ever happened to cmkx
<0> panini: not required as taxation is based on 'residency - the ties you have established' and nothing to do with citizenship
<8> .pk
<8> did it go bankrupt?
<8> !q cmkx.pk
<9> Error: Invalid stock symbol CMKX.PK
<8> hmm
<8> that 0.0001 company that never moved
<5> sillly tpx
<10> yeah
<10> haha
<1> they got delisted
<8> lol k
<10> no worries though
<2> Super_BQ: yes but as long as you are a canadian citizen, wouldn't they still try to tax you even though you are living abroad?
<1> and sold all the land
<0> panini: moving to NZ 7 years ago was the best financial decision i've ever made in my life
<1> i't's like 3am there right now?
<2> Super_BQ: not to mention NZ is beautiful
<11> .q dmx
<12> DMX (i-trax inc) last: 3.00 +0.30 10.00% , range: 2.75-3.08, vol: 1278900
<1> well thats good for workaholics
<11> told yallz
<13> i'll keep my bid in overnight
<0> panini: nope. tax court rulings have taxed people who have never stepped a foot in Canada on their WHOLE world income
<1> itrax
<1> do they make forklifts?
<11> nahh
<13> maybe it'll get bulled tomorrow and i'll get filled
<1> oh
<1> other trax something then
<5> maybe
<0> panini: while there were cases where one tried to pay taxes in Canada to 'claim citizenship' but were rejected
<1> last min rally
<5> if it doesn't finish filling today
<5> do you pay
<5> comimssion
<5> today
<5> and tomorrow
<5> ?
<1> no
<13> amtd has lowered my commissions on options
<13> big time
<5> really?
<13> yeah
<5> what do you pay?
<1> you could sit on bid for a month and pick up shares for 1 commission
<14> !Q ^IXIC
<13> i dunno
<1> in theory
<9> ^IXIC (NASDAQ COMPOSITE) - 3:49pm: 8.07 Change(-7.18 -0.32%) / Opened(2275.30) Lastclose(2265.25) / Range: Daily(2253.06 - 2275.30) Yearly(1889.83 - 2332.92) / Volume(0)
<13> but everytime i sell
<14> !Q ^SPX
<13> they send me a email
<9> ^GSPC (S&P 500 INDEX) - 3:49pm: 4.27 Change(-2.59 -0.20%) / Opened(1267.81) Lastclose(1266.86) / Range: Daily(1259.45 - 1271.87) Yearly(1136.15 - 1294.90) / Volume(2270739200)
<1> or sit well below bid
<13> telling me about a refund
<14> What
<5> interesting
<13> i've gotten over
<13> 350 in commissions
<13> refunded
<5> nice
<0> panini: triggers to show you become a resident in Canada is similar to the US. ie. stay more than 183 days in a year, buy a house, bank accounts, dependants living in Canada, etc.)
<1> !q klge.pk
<9> KLGE.PK (KLEGG ELECTRONCS) - 3:26pm: .50 Change(-0.11 -6.83%) / Opened(1.70) Lastclose(1.61) / Range: Daily(1.35 - 1.70) Yearly(0.20 - 0.37) / Volume(822991)
<1> i should have bid lower
<1> should have would have etc
<14> !Q SNTO
<9> SNTO (SENTO CORP) - 3:27pm: .88 Change(+0.02 +0.23%) / Opened(8.94) Lastclose(8.86) / Range: Daily(8.69 - 9.10) Yearly(2.20 - 9.00) / Volume(65261)
<2> Super_BQ: in the US i would be taxed even if i lived abroad
<14> panini, you know how forgien tax works?
<0> panini: well. by law ALL US citizens have to file an IRS return regardless where they are for life!
<2> yes
<14> Like if i live in UK and trade US exchanges
<14> how would that work
<14> what tax would i pau?
<14> pay*
<5> tpx @ 11.99
<5> 12.00
<5> will jj get filled?
<0> Mo-oZ: only the withholding dividen or interest
<5> what a silly rally
<0> by filling out form W8-BEN
<2> Mo-oZ: dunno... you are subject to UK laws, not US laws
<0> Mo-oZ: usually 33% with-holding but none on capital gains
<10> !q tpx
<2> Super_BQ: right, so moving to NZ wouldn't help me :(
<5> it's @ 12
<9> TPX (TEMPUR-PEDIC INTL) - 3:34pm: .87 Change(-0.18 -1.49%) / Opened(12.03) Lastclose(12.05) / Range: Daily(11.74 - 12.03) Yearly(9.41 - 25.00) / Volume(1152000)
<5> chillin
<10> DAMN
<1> !return 1.51 1.71
<3> The Return rate for 1.51 -> 1.71 is: 13.2450331126%
<5> it's no big deal
<5> it will probably rally tomorrow before earnings
<10> yea
<5> then tank!
<5> muahahaha
<0> panini: unless you give up your US citizenship which they don't like either as you're "not welcome back to the US" once you do that
<0> there are some major disadvantages of living in New Zealand too
<2> like what?
<0> you won't get state-of-the-art medical care
<15> if you do a burnout they can seize your car:(
<0> elementary and highschool education has changed to a "check+ and check-" grading rather than F you fail or C,Bs, & As based on %
<14> !Q INSM
<5> 1.2 million shares today
<5> on tpx
<5> so far
<9> INSM (INSMED INC) - 3:42pm: .68 Change(+0.18 +7.20%) / Opened(2.50) Lastclose(2.50) / Range: Daily(2.50 - 2.68) Yearly(0.79 - 3.35) / Volume(2851988)
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