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<0> someone tell me that
<1> ummm, I guess can you tell us why you think they won't?
<2> hehe
<2> people have overstock shares and it has NEVER made any money
<0> because voip has been around since... early 1990s
<2> it loses tons
<3> !return 10.77 10.81
<4> The Return rate for 10.77 -> 10.81 is: 0.371402042711%
<0> the protocol has changed
<0> the concept is the same
<0> look at idt
<5> NatureTM : dont forget they declared something like 200 mil in revenues and they spending 400mil on marketting
<0> idt made net2phone
<0> commercialized it
<1> I think advertising is gonna help and I bet costs are steadily decreasing
<1> erikg, sounds like typical internet business lol
<0> well thats fine
<5> NatureTM : plus they reserved someting like 15% of their stocks for existing customers.. someone made an interesting point once they might be fearful they can't sell everything thru the normal branches like most ppl do (primakry market thru the big brokerage house) so they offered some to the customers
<6> mrmag00: they aren't going to make any money
<6> the priceof voice is going to 0
<0> i know they're not
<0> exactly
<5> NatureTM : you mean sounds like a typical of the DOT COM era
<6> in 2001 it was .10/minute for long distance
<6> now it's .02/minute
<0> when wifi meets cellular phones
<0> cost = 0
<6> it's going to 0
<0> basically.
<6> fast
<5> too many ppl are still experiencing trouble with vonage
<2> what ****s is I cant fax for **** over vonage or have my TIVO's make their call's
<5> "when it work, it works but when it doesn't it's awesful"
<6> they're losing $75million/quarter and there investors aren't putting up any more $, that's the only reason vonage went public
<2> skype is better IMO =]
<5> and as many ppl reported, when there are delays and there is echo the one making the vonage call doesn't realize it, it's the person on the other end of the line that often has to say something
<3> hey guys i found an amazing website: http://www.marketclouds.com
<1> I guess you guys are right, but when wifi meets cellular I would think vonage might be better poised for success over cell phone companies
<2> vonage spends too much in advertising and based out of NYC their costs are too high
<0> but youre not thinking like an investor
<2> whats it do port?
<0> if u did, u would think 10 years old
<0> er
<7> wi-fi has already met cellular
<0> sorry
<0> 10 years out*
<7> it's called ev-do :)
<5> NatureTM : i'll pay for my ISP-provided voip service before I pay for vonage
<2> I use my skype over my evdo connection =]
<7> evdo rulez
<2> but only to conf. china and europe
<0> i realized sometjhing
<5> 3g cellphone networks or whatever they call them
<0> any company that makes stupid commercials
<0> generally go down the drain
<1> lol
<7> haven't heard much on wi-macs tho
<0> i dont remember the last time google made a commercial and their ipo went well
<0> all the stock exchanges did very wel
<0> these stocks that quadrupled i havent seen any ads for
<1> yeah google doesn't need commercials
<8> .p
<9> Portfolio:
<9> MMU.V 10000.00 (0.2000) 2000.00 -6.98%
<9> LBE.V 5000.00 (0.7000) 3500.00 +32.08%
<0> thats my point
<9> SGR.V 17000.00 (1.5800) 26860.00 +66.32%
<9> Total portfolio value for Avis is 60.0 +54.46% ($11410.00) gain
<1> ones that already have alot of awareness
<0> thats the point
<0> companies that have established businesses
<0> are more likely to be profitable
<3> !gold
<10> Nymex Gold Last Trade: 42.0
<1> how is monster doing these days?
<0> symbol is mnst
<10> ^IXIC - 12:06pm: 8.34 Change(+9.58 +0.44%) Volume(0)
<10> ^DJI - 12:07pm: 38.69 Change(+40.34 +0.36%) Volume(167926480)
<10> ^NYA - 12:07pm: 0.63 Change(-34.33 -0.42%) Volume(0)
<5> .quote mnst
<9> MNST (monster worldwide) last: 50.32 -0.94 -1.87% (Vol: 672247) Daily Range: (49.85-51.74) Yearly Range: (25.56 - 59.99)
<1> not bad until recently
<0> do a little dance
<0> make a little love
<0> get down tonight
<7> wonder which word triggered it this time
<3> lol
<3> it as the bold
<3> get down tonight
<11> get down tonight
<3> bold does that
<3> ok maybe not
<3> lol
<1> lol weird
<7> wasn't bold
<3> yeh i dunno
<3> hey
<1> get down
<3> is gold too high now?
<7> lol
<3> i thinking of getting GLD
<7> gold?
<3> !q gld
<3> yeah
<10> GLD (STREETTRACKS GOLD) - 11:49am: .99 Change(-2.39 -3.60%) / Opened(64.83) Lastclose(66.38) / Range: Daily(63.73 - 65.16) Yearly(41.33 - 72.26) / Volume(6365300)
<7> port, goto stockcharts.com and look up "$gold"
<1> sell it short
<1> or the commodity equivelant of that
<3> yeah i thikn it may be too expensive
<3> it was like $500 a month ago
<3> !gold
<10> Nymex Gold Last Trade: 43.0
<3> but then again
<3> it could go back to 710
<3> oil in the green
<3> !iol
<3> !oil
<10> Nymex Crude Oil 0.90 Change: -.86 Change%: -1.20 Time: 1:38
<10> Nymex Real-Time Crude Oil Last Trade: 0.90
<3> hm
<3> !q uso
<10> USO (U.S. OIL FUND ET) - 11:51am: .60 Change(-0.17 -0.25%) / Opened(67.21) Lastclose(67.77) / Range: Daily(67.05 - 67.79) Yearly(64.89 - 73.23) / Volume(146900)
<1> companies extracting that oil from those sands in canada are prolly a safe bet
<7> port: http://www.stockcharts.com/c-sc/sc?s=$GOLD&p=D&yr=3&mn=0&dy=0&i=t06641792939&r=405
<7> this is the current chart on gold
<7> it looks high to me
<7> you can see a strong support at 550 or so
<7> between 540 to 560
<3> yeah
<3> it looks too hgh
<3> you can see
<7> gold is consolidating
<7> hopefully
<1> I bet it will go up a lil more before coming back down b/c the economy is gonna **** for awhile I think
<3> yea
<3> ill get in on mid 500's
<7> if gold loses 550 then gold bull market is over
<3> even low 600's
<3> siri just hit 52 week low
<7> here's weekly chart
<3> lol
<7> http://stockcharts.com/c-sc/sc?s=$GOLD&p=W&yr=3&mn=0&dy=0&i=t54761164130&r=3249
<9> Tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/r4loa (URL by Invest)
<7> still above 70 RSI level
<3> 560 is a solid buy
<7> anyway it'll be moving up and down for a while hopefully
<6> .q wtm
<9> WTM (white mtn ins ltd) last: 510.00 -5.50 -1.08% (Vol: 1100) Daily Range: (509.50-514.00) Yearly Range: (497.00 - 711.99)
<3> anything under that is cheaper
<6> .q wmt
<9> WMT (wal mart stores) last: 47.85 +0.33 0.69% (Vol: 5118900) Daily Range: (47.37-47.86) Yearly Range: (42.31 - 50.87)
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