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<0> i'm serious
<0> ford too
<0> useless companies
<1> yea, but did you see their concept car for the new comaro?...bad ***! :D
<0> they need to face up to the fact that the cars they manufacturer are crap
<1> dont gm and ford own like 5 other car manufacturers?.. like volvo?
<2> .q bmw.de
<3> BMW.DE (bmw) last: 35.68 -0.21 -0.59% , range: 35.52-35.89, vol: 888339
<4> u guys hear about new chinese SUV goin to the UK?
<4> it got 0 safety rating
<4> lowest ever
<1> can someone explain to me, just because a companies earnings are down, it will make for a "gloomy year"...some times that money is not really lost, but rather invested in making the business better.... (intel / apple)
<1> lol
<5> k1d
<1> well the chineese can afford to lose a few people
<5> if the money was invested



<5> it was still earned
<0> no gloomy years means that the expected earnings will be less
<5> therefore if it wasn't earned, it couldn't of been invested
<0> like when a CEO lowers his yearly revenue forecast from previous statements
<1> and that has an affect on the whole market based on the decisions of a few ceo's?
<0> i'm not saying the whole market is gloomy
<0> i said search sector
<1> oh
<0> market expectation is over +10%
<0> which sectors will be hot?
<0> thats the question
<0> some say financials will come back this year
<0> metal and stuff
<0> metals
<0> mining
<0> security is always hot
<0> biomedical is always hot
<0> internet stocks are 50/50
<1> these are the only sectors?..its seems there would be tons more: http://www.google.com/search?oi=stock&q=stocks:GOOG&prev=/search%3Fq%3Dgoog%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG
<1> tanto..you an investor/ trader...?
<0> http://biz.yahoo.com/ic/ind_index.html
<0> yes
<1> which one?
<0> kind of both but not very active lately
<0> my mindset is more trader
<1> oh
<1> with IB?
<0> i have ameritrade apex
<1> what do you think of them?
<0> dakr-elf is right, don't bother doing anything with only $500
<0> i love ameritrade
<0> i had scottrade and i didn't like it
<1> lol why?
<0> i switched to ameritrade
<1> was it scottrade elite?
<0> i don't like their streamer, their interface, and their wack rules and commissions
<0> no
<0> just normal scottrade
<1> because i just have the basic 500.00 one
<1> 7 dollars for market and limit...thats good, no?
<1> well right now i'm just watching the market, so i got scottrade because theu didnt have an inactive fees which i liked
<0> they used to be $7 for market and like $12.50 + 1/2% for limit
<0> and i pretty much only do limits
<2> how much you get in 1 day
<2> by limits
<0> i don't know what you're saying
<2> lol
<6> hehe
<1> thats for stocks under a dollar..it says here: (limit orders only) listed, nasdaq and bulliten board stocks $7 + 1/2% of principal
<2> i mean how much % you get everyday from the limits
<0> depends ont he stock
<0> sometimes i go by $ amount
<1> well i wanted apex but you need like 25k to even open the account, right?
<0> $2k to open ameritrade
<0> i got upgraded to apex for placing average of 10 trades a month for 3 months
<0> a minimum avg of 10 trades per month
<1> is that alot?
<0> no
<0> some traders i know do 10 trades a day
<0> or more
<0> a lot more



<1> well, day trading..i'm looking to hold stocks for about 3 days to capture the most gains
<1> ..if possible :)
<0> yeah
<0> thats more swing trading
<0> and trend trading
<1> you too though
<1> unless you hold on for months...
<1> "buy and homework, not buy and hold" - jim cramer.. lol
<0> the only advantage to holding on to stocks for more than a few months, in my opinion, is that after 1 year the tax is basically cut in half
<1> how many stocks do you hold at any givin time?
<0> no more than a handful
<0> i'm going to sleep
<0> see you
<1> see ya
<0> k1d read up on www.investopedia.com
<0> read everything there
<0> before you buy anything
<1> i read some
<0> also i started a site too, not much now but people can add to it at their leisure: http://www.stock-school.com/
<1> ...and read some day trading books
<0> bbl
<6> .q goog
<3> GOOG (google) last: 399.4601 0.00 0.00%, range: N/A-N/A, vol: 2790
<6> !q hec
<7> HEC (HARKEN ENERGY CP) - 3:59pm: .80 Change(0.00) / Opened(N/A) Lastclose(0.80) / Range: Daily(N/A - N/A) Yearly(0.37 - 0.98) / Volume(0)
<6> nice
<6> !q artx
<7> ARTX (AROTECH CORP) - 4:00pm: .50 Change(0.00) / Opened(N/A) Lastclose(0.50) / Range: Daily(N/A - N/A) Yearly(0.36 - 1.78) / Volume(0)
<2> !q sgr.v lbe.v tah.to
<7> SGR.V (SAN GOLD CORPORAT) - 3:57pm: .66 Change(0.00) / Opened(0.65) Lastclose(0.66) / Range: Daily(0.63 - 0.66) Yearly(0.34 - 0.68) / Volume(528936)
<7> LBE.V (LIBERTY MINES INC) - 3:52pm: .54 Change(0.00) / Opened(0.57) Lastclose(0.54) / Range: Daily(0.54 - 0.58) Yearly(0.13 - 0.64) / Volume(106000)
<7> TAH.TO (TAHERA DIAMOND CO) - 3:59pm: .68 Change(0.00) / Opened(0.68) Lastclose(0.68) / Range: Daily(0.67 - 0.69) Yearly(0.36 - 0.72) / Volume(2700113)
<8> damn irc server splits
<5> tanto
<5> i bought 2 shares of goog at 401
<5> smart or retarded?
<6> too expensive
<5> marstrax: why
<6> you're goign to lose abotu 400 by friday
<5> what makes it too expensive
<5> marstrax: why's that
<6> because they'll be worth about 200 bucks then
<5> why's that
<5> you have answered anything
<6> since you bought 2 of them you'll lose total: 400
<5> lol
<5> marstrax: WHY
<2> WHYY
<5> you think it's only worth a forward p/e of 20?
<6> several factors
<5> name two
<5> and i'll give you the shares
<6> i don't want goog
<5> i'll send you $800 if you name two logical reasons
<6> look, try and sell them before the bell tonight
<5> why it'll goto $200
<5> no
<6> and you'll find that you've lost money
<5> you explain your logic
<6> if you don't sell by today you'll lose alot more money
<5> because i think they're worth a forward p/e of 60-70
<6> watch the first few hours today
<6> i won't have to say anything
<5> and since it's expected to earn $9 in 2006
<6> you'll be :(
<8> futures market are pointing up!!!
<6> that was before the federal subpoenaa
<5> that puts it at $540-630
<5> marstrax: every search engine was subpoenaed
<5> that's not even an issue
<6> but google is holding ou tbecause of the trouble they're going to be in once they do hand over the information
<5> they just want to know what people are searching
<6> google is going down


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