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<0> it adds up
<1> if it increases the value of the car by 1k
<0> it probably cost them a few hundred on each car
<1> which, it never will
<1> it still isnt a big deal when your talking about 80k
<2> blower + aftercooler aftermarket is atleast 6K
<1> 'aftermarket'
<2> so factor that vs. bigger bore and stroke and tb
<1> not for gm
<2> probably cheaper to CNC it.
<3> well
<0> it costs nothing to make the engine larger displacement
<3> for $80,000 there are other cars to shop for
<1> eitherway.. i love the z06 i just think its engine is a bit too large
<0> and the blower will decrease efficiency
<2> blower will decrease MPG, that's a fact.
<0> there are no disadvantages to the larger engine
<2> adding mopre displacement for N/A horsepower can keep more MPG.
<2> zzzzz: why do you care how big it is?
<0> its not physically larger or heavier of any significance and the fuel economy is good so i dont know what the complaint is
<2> that arguement could be used for the veyron
<2> "oh i dont like 16 cyclinders"
<1> unter: it just makes me feel howmuch they cheaped out
<1> yea i think the veyron is stupid too
<1> who need 4 ****ing turbos
<2> veyron has more displacement than z06
<2> and 4 turbos.
<1> and 16 cylinders
<1> its lame.
<3> i need 4 turbos
<2> you bolt a TT on a z06 and I bet it could hit 1000hp/1000tq
<3> to get my grocery 0.2 seconds faster
<0> they cheaped out because they didnt put an inefficient supercharger on the car?
<2> r__: lol
<1> champi0n: no because they couldnt engineer the 500hp with a more efficient engine
<0> the engine is efficient as hell
<2> the hennessey viper is $250K and beats the veyron is 0-60, 0-200, 1/4, 1mile, and P/W ratio
<3> well you all know what happened to the cl 65 amg
<0> what else gets that MPG pumping out 500horse
<3> they put too much torque in that
<1> who cares.. people dont buy these cars with mpg in mind
<2> r__: cl65 is great :)
<3> it actually runs slower than the 55 i think
<0> why are you arguing efficiency?
<2> r__: no it doesn't, not at all
<0> make up your mind
<3> hm...
<1> because 7 litres is retarded
<2> bigger low end torque = faster 1/4 time, and it has higher hp than cl55
<0> ok poor argument
<2> which means higher end performance as well
<0> enough
<1> i am making up my mind
<3> no doubt it is faster
<3> but it isnt tractable...
<0> very well
<3> on a track
<1> performance=low mpg
<1> usually.
<2> sl65 is what, 650hp/720tq?
<3> nah cl65
<3> its the coupe
<2> same thing right?
<3> not the convertible
<2> oh
<3> yeah something like that probably
<2> cl65 is probably a few hundred lbs lighter
<1> i like zee new porsche 911 turbo.. i think its ***y
<1> but too expensive
<1> the 2007 model
<2> my dream car is the hennessey viper
<2> twin turbo, 1000hp/1100tq
<4> heh, rule #1 -- never buy a new car
<0> im not a viper fan really
<2> **** i wont ever have that car.
<3> rule #1 - always buy a lemon
<2> its a dumb investment.
<2> I'll always drive a 4 - 6 year old car
<3> adverse selection :)
<0> yeah, newer cars are poor investments
<2> well i drive a 2000 328i
<2> i could probably afford a brand new m3......but why waste $1000+/mo
<0> how many miles on it
<2> 140, 40 put on by me.
<2> still running strong
<4> a couple hours of hard negotiation at the dealership, coupled with the fact that i never finance liabilities, enables me to obtain a new vehicle every year or so
<0> thats pretty high mileage
<0> what were you thinking buying a BMW with 100k on it
<2> bmw's I6s last a solid 300K before HG failure.
<4> typically break even on the car, the only real "loss" is the fact i'm not earning 15% on the cash
<3> isnt finance and liability redundant
<3> h0h0
<0> well the engine is one thing but everything else in that car
<4> r, heh
<2> champi0n: I bought it for 14, i've spent about 4k on upkeep so far....the basic **** that goes out at 100K
<3> what do u mean u obtain a new vehicle every year
<0> i wouldnt own a BMW unless its under warranty
<3> do u sell that one and get a new one?
<2> so i plan on keeping it for a few years. i have no problem owning a car 5+ years old.
<0> me either but not a german one
<4> r, exactly, i always get bargains on cars, don't really care about long-term reliability, etc., when i sell, i usually come pretty close to breaking even on it
<2> bmws are fine, you just have to know A) how to fix basic **** and B) a good mechanic, which I both have
<0> how do you break even on a new car?
<3> what about taxes
<0> that makes no sense
<0> i work on my cars myself
<4> i never buy a new car, always used, and yes, taxes are factored in as well
<2> leasing an automobile is more fiscally smart. you only pay taxes on lease payment, etc.
<0> oh i thought you said you get a new car every few years
<2> if you are the type to want to get a new car every 3 years.
<2> champi0n: i dont know what im going to do after my current car
<4> champi0n, yes, a "new" car, in the sense that it's a different model, heh
<0> i see
<0> i thought you meant brand new
<4> i'm about to get rid of my xjr, only really needs a set of front tires and it's ready to go
<2> brand new cars are a horrible investment. but you gotta love americans and their debt prone actions
<2> "OMG THE NEW ESCALLADE IS OUT, RUN TO THE DEALERSHIP HONEY!"
<0> i plan on keeping my car for a long time
<2> I'd like to get an E39 M5
<2> big ol v8.
<2> i figure in maybe 3 - 4 years the tuners will have a turbo/supercharger market for them
<2> since most bmw tuners are a series behind the current.
<0> theyre nice but i just do not trust the high mileage german cars
<2> bmw has one of the best engine reps.
<2> trannys, automatics = death
<0> yeah the older ones
<2> manuals = decent
<0> the new ones i dont know about
<2> i dont know where you are getting the notion that the new ones are bad.
<2> there's no evidence to support that
<0> the old benzes were good high mileage machined
<0> the new ones are problematic
<3> benz used to make really quality stuff
<0> yeah
<1> check jd power & ***osciates
<1> i think bmw wasnt so high up ther alst time i looked
<1> i could be wrong though
<0> now they are plagued by electronics problems
<0> BMW is in the same boat as benz
<0> not as bad though
<2> *shrug* everyone I know that owns a BMW has been satisfied with their purchase.
<2> except for the dude who bought a lemoned M3.
<2> lol that ****er has had so many problems
<0> what are people going to do in a few years when these cars are out of warranty and all these electrical problems kep arising
<1> all bmw owners are cult members
<0> i really do not like german design
<0> not the actual design and look of the car but the mechanical design
<2> I think I'd like to open a tuner shop someday.
<0> they are such a PITA to work on
<2> tuning bmws, porsches, benz, etc
<1> youd go broke i think =P
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