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<0> !Q ^FTSE
<1> ^FTSE - FTSE 100- 5693.20 +29.50 +0.52% () Daily Range: [++++++----] 63% (5663.70 5710.00) Yearly Range: [+++++++++-] 94% (4770.10 5750.30)
<2> !q 0012.hk
<1> 0012.HK - HENDERSON LAND- 39.10 +0.70 +1.82% (215398) Daily Range: [++++++----] 69% (38.65 39.30) Yearly Range: [+++++++---] 73% (33.35 41.15)
<2> !q 0013.hk
<1> 0013.HK - HUTCHISON- 79.40 +1.30 +1.66% (3746712) Daily Range: [+++++++---] 77% (78.70 79.60) Yearly Range: [+++++++---] 79% (65.50 83.05)
<2> .google amazon mathematics of money management
<3> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0471547387?v=glance
<2> thats a good book... mathematics of money management
<0> nice
<0> expensive
<2> eh
<2> I got it at the library
<2> !q mot
<1> MOT - MOTOROLA INC- 22.73 +1.01 +4.33% (5532100) Daily Range: [--------------------------] -166% (23.78 24.41) Yearly Range: [+++++++---] 78% (14.48 24.99)



<0> god bless the library
<0> whats its all about?
<0> just good risk management skills?
<0> !calc 0.05 * 100000
<1> 0.05 * 100000 = 5000.0
<0> !calc 5000/ 100
<1> 5000/ 100 = 50
<2> ya
<2> how to most efficiently manage risk
<2> efficient portfolio setup
<2> and stuff like that
<2> it focuses mostly on efficiency I guess
<0> i see nice
<0> !calc 0.05 * 1000000
<1> 0.05 * 1000000 = 50000.0
<0> !calc 50000 /100
<1> 50000 /100 = 500
<4> what happened with MOT?
<2> died
<4> earning bad?
<2> just didnt meet estimates
<4> oh
<2> down 6%
<4> hah
<2> or so
<4> !q MOTO
<1> MOTO - bad symbol
<4> !q MOT
<1> MOT - MOTOROLA INC- 22.75 +1.01 +4.33% (5654500) Daily Range: [--------------------------] -163% (23.78 24.41) Yearly Range: [+++++++---] 78% (14.48 24.99)
<4> holy
<4> ****
<4> JJ bought some puts
<4> lol
<2> ya
<4> its ganna be down tomorrow
<2> yep
<4> good call [JJ]
<4> if your not around somewhere talking in caps
<4> :)
<4> THOUGHTS?
<4> PUTS?
<4> MOT?
<2> he also bought some feb calls as per jvc
<4> yeah
<4> im sure
<2> so he'll break even
<2> :p
<5> YES
<5> I WILL ABOUT
<5> BREAK EVEN
<5> im on the mot CC tho
<5> right now
<5> looks like it was more supply-side
<5> and they are saying they have the supply-side issues worked out
<5> mots already back to 22.98
<5> now 23
<5> pretty good CC
<0> so are you up or down on it'?
<0> haha
<5> you could probably make good money
<0> too good to answer a rookie?



<5> calling it here
<5> i think i will hold my feb calls
<5> i will cash in my jan puts tomorrow
<5> obviously
<5> cause they expire on sat
<0> ah
<5> my feb calls should move up
<5> i see now reason why mot wouldnt head back to 23.8
<5> !q mot
<1> MOT - MOTOROLA INC- 23.03 +1.01 +4.33% (5938200) Daily Range: [---------------------] -119% (23.78 24.41) Yearly Range: [++++++++--] 81% (14.48 24.99)
<5> yeah
<0> whats the strike price?
<5> both 25
<0> on both call and put?
<5> yup
<0> hmm
<5> thing is i see mot getting bids
<5> after this CC
<5> its pretty good
<0> i see
<5> it was at 22.6
<0> so you're gonna cash the puts in
<5> and theyre bidding it back up to 23.03
<0> and wait for a rise to cash in the calls?
<5> yeah
<0> sweet
<0> how bad were earnings?
<5> they beat expectation
<5> no earnings
<5> on*
<5> sales came in 10.43 street wanted 10.5
<5> not exactly a huge miss
<6> !pm
<0> ah
<0> that caused the after hours drop?
<5> then they guided around the low end of expectations
<5> for the guidance
<5> and yeah people sold first asked questions later
<5> lol
<5> look
<5> !q MOT
<1> MOT - MOTOROLA INC- 23.25 +1.01 +4.33% (5948500) Daily Range: [------------------] -84% (23.78 24.41) Yearly Range: [++++++++--] 83% (14.48 24.99)
<5> already 23.25
<5> see
<5> CC is real good
<5> street overreacted big time
<5> cause now it looks like MOT will blow away
<5> 1Q expectations
<5> yeah mot will be fine
<0> ah
<0> so people sold on the news which caused the drop
<5> yeah people sold on light guidance
<0> ah
<5> but now see that they will beat the new expectations
<5> because apparently the problem was supply side in their sales
<5> meaning
<5> it wasnt that people didnt want MOT's stuff
<5> its that MOT couldnt get enough out there for them to buy
<0> oh haha
<0> I bought a motorolla 2 weeks ago
<5> buy more
<0> haha
<5> phones
<0> willdo
<5> ;o
<0> hmm
<0> what do you expect then
<0> big rise
<0> tomorrow?
<5> maybe not tomorrow
<7> .p
<3> Portfolio:
<3> ZOLT 100.00 (10.6000) 1060.00 +1.34%
<3> TLCV 100.00 (7.8300) 783.00 +1.16%


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