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<0> if you sell a put you expect the stock to go up or stay where it is
<0> and all you gain is premium if you wait for it to expire
<0> or you can gain the difference between what you sell it at and what you buy it back at if the stock goes up ( think shorting a stock )
<0> so profit is limited to the premium you receive
<0> when you go long a call
<0> you expect the stock to go up
<0> and only up
<1> yeah
<0> in which case you have unlimited potential return
<1> oh yeah
<1> grr i just dont get the difference between the buying and selling
<0> its easy you just need to sit down one day and think it over
<0> it all makes sense
<0> out of every transation you need to see the buyer and the seller
<0> and depending on the derivative (put or call) they are affected differently
<1> hmm



<1> i know that there has to be buyers and sellers of the option
<1> but surely you just BUY the put/call then sell it
<1> Ahh
<1> or you could sell it then buy it
<1> either
<1> ah
<0> well someone needs to sell it for you to buy it
<0> and yes
<0> what you said it correct
<0> its the difference between being long and short
<1> yeah
<1> but i thought that difference was calls and puts
<1> so how do you sell a call short?
<1> and go long in a put?
<0> you write a call
<0> and you buy a put
<0> when you start with a sell of a derivative product, you are in fact adding to the supply. You are creating it out of thin air because it is only you that can say I want to impose these restrictions on my self
<0> you can only buy a put if someone is selling though. once you have bought it you can sell it because you already have it.
<0> I'd suggest a good book about options first
<0> otherwise it can look like a bunch of circular drivel
<0> I've got to go
<0> ttyl
<2> futures way down most I have ever seen them down
<1> hey almar
<2> hey
<3> well my quad got picked up this morning and is at the dealership for it's 10hrs workup
<3> !p
<4> PMT-UN.TO 20000 (22.00) 440000.0 +34.97% (2006-01-16)
<4> RSM.V 2000 (0.91) 1820.0 +10.98% (2006-01-16)
<4> Total portfolio value for Acid-Duck is 820.0 +34.85% ($114180.0) gain.
<3> .n pmt-un.to
<5> PMT-UN.TO NEWS: Paramount Energy Trust Announces Strategic Corporate Acquisition URL: http://tinyurl.com/7qbvw
<3> !n pmt-un.to
<4> No Companies found for 'pmt-un.to'
<2> 06:23 am : S&P futures vs fair value: -10.5. Nasdaq futures vs fair value: -31.5
<2> 07:59 am : S&P futures vs fair value: -7.7. Nasdaq futures vs fair value: -29.0
<1> krazypeeetee
<1> or kasdh should i call you
<6> anyone know what that product is call... its the microchip that is replacing the bar codes called like RFND or RNFD or something
<7> !q gold
<4> GOLD - RANDGOLD RES LTD- 17.42 0.00 0.00% () Daily Range: N/A (N/A N/A) Yearly Range: [++++++++--] 89% (10.10 18.29)
<7> !gold
<4> Gold - 553.40
<7> !seach whampoa
<7> !search whampoa
<4> No Companies found.
<7> !search hutchison
<4> 3.HK(HUTCHISON), HTX(HUTCHISON TEL), HUWHY.PK(HUTCHISON WHAMPO), HUWHF.PK(HUTCHISON WHAMPO), HHRBF.PK(HUTCHISON HARBOU)
<7> !q huwhy.pk
<4> HUWHY.PK - HUTCHISON WHAMPOA- 49.75 0.00 0.00% () Daily Range: N/A (N/A N/A) Yearly Range: [+++++++---] 70% (42.05 52.90)
<7> !q huwhf.pk
<4> HUWHF.PK - HUTCHISON WHAMPOA- 10.30 0.00 0.00% () Daily Range: N/A (N/A N/A) Yearly Range: [++++++++++] 123% (6.15 9.50)
<5> Watch List :: ALTI AMRN ANX ARTG ASTM ATAR AVAN AVGN AVNX AXTI BBA BBI BDCO BGO BJCT BLDP BSML CBJ CCUR CDE CIEN COMS CPST CRAY CRGN CTE CYTR DDDC DMAX EPIX EVCI EXAS FORG FUEL GEPT GIGM GLGC GLOV GMST GNTA HEB HL HYGS IINT IMGN IMMU IMR INFS INSM INVX
<5> Watch List :: IRSN ISON ISV IVAN JMAR KOOL KRY LOOK LSCC LVLT MANU MCDT MCEL MDII MEH MPET MRVC NENG NGEN NTEC NXXI OCPI OMNI ONT OXGN PARS PBIZ PCYC PMTR PTN RITA SATC SCLN SFE SGU STSI SUNW TIII TMTA TMWD TORM TQNT TSYS UBET VC VION VLNC WMSI WSTL ZIXI
<7> !q torm
<4> TORM - TOR MINERALS INTL- 2.76 0.00 0.00% () Daily Range: N/A (N/A N/A) Yearly Range: [+---------] 14% (2.05 6.92)
<7> !q vc
<4> VC - VISTEON CP- 4.97 0.00 0.00% () Daily Range: N/A (N/A N/A) Yearly Range: [++--------] 23% (3.14 10.91)
<2> DJ Stifel Nicolaus Cuts Google To Sell From Hold >GOOG
<1> wow
<2> INSM staying strong



<2> last 2.78
<2> pre
<8> !q intc
<4> INTC - INTEL CP- 23.09 0.00 0.00% (1689748) Daily Range: N/A (N/A N/A) Yearly Range: [+---------] 17% (21.89 28.84)
<1> GOOG down hard
<2> 09:00 am : S&P futures vs fair value: -8.3. Nasdaq futures vs fair value: -29.0
<8> !q goog
<4> GOOG - GOOGLE- 446.98 0.00 0.00% (51284) Daily Range: N/A (N/A N/A) Yearly Range: [+++++++++-] 90% (172.57 475.11)
<2> INSM dam nice open
<9> !q sunw
<4> SUNW - SUN MICROSYS INC- 4.52 0.00 0.00% (48850) Daily Range: N/A (N/A N/A) Yearly Range: [++++++----] 69% (3.42 5.00)
<9> !q glw
<4> GLW - CORNING INC- 24.00 0.00 0.00% (1400) Daily Range: N/A (N/A N/A) Yearly Range: [+++++++++-] 92% (10.61 25.05)
<10> .del T
<11> Deleted T
<10> .del MT
<11> Deleted MT
<2> LPTH starting low float run folks
<12> !q OIH GAGEX
<4> OIH - OIL SERVICE HOLDR- 143.92 0.00 0.00% (9700) Daily Range: N/A (N/A N/A) Yearly Range: [+++++++++-] 96% (84.16 145.77)
<4> GAGEX - GUINNESS ATKINSON- 27.12 +0.62 +2.34% (N/A) Daily Range: N/A (N/A N/A) Yearly Range: N/A (N/A N/A)
<12> !q FUEL
<4> FUEL - STREICHER MOB FUE- 3.15 0.00 0.00% (200) Daily Range: N/A (N/A N/A) Yearly Range: [++++------] 42% (1.35 5.55)
<13> .p
<11> Portfolio:
<11> 140.KS 4.00 (130000.0000) 520000.00 -9.09%
<11> 9.HK 5000.00 (2.9500) 14750.00 +18.00%
<11> MMM 300.00 (77.1300) 23139.00 +0.25%
<11> 7.TW 1600.00 (3.6900) 5904.00 +25.94%
<11> 4.TW 1000.00 (10.2000) 10200.00 +6.81%
<14> !pm\
<11> WIPR.BO 50.00 (461.1500) 23057.50 +5.67%
<14> !pm
<11> MIGP 8.00 (16.4800) 131.84 +20.82%
<11> 1.TW 100.00 (38.0000) 3800.00 +7.04%
<11> 8.TW 100.00 (31.2000) 3120.00 -3.70%
<11> 000.SS 180.00 (10.9500) 1971.00 +24.57%
<11> 571.SZ 200.00 (2.1600) 432.00 +16.13%
<11> 9.HK 300.00 (3.9250) 1177.50 +52.43%
<11> 000.KS 4.00 (18000.0000) 72000.00 -6.25%
<11> MMC 100.00 (31.6700) 3167.00 -1.62%
<11> MSN.DE 30.00 (26.5000) 795.00 +0.00%
<11> MSN.SG 30.00 (25.9900) 779.70 +4.59%
<11> MSN.F 30.00 (25.9700) 779.10 +4.63%
<11> MILL.OB 60.00 (1.2000) 72.00 +13.21%
<11> MEM 120.00 (1.0200) 122.40 -1.92%
<11> BP-.VX 100.00 (6.6575) 665.75 +1.99%
<11> MSN.BE 30.00 (25.6300) 768.90 -5.14%
<11> 018.SS 24.00 (10.9400) 262.56 +2.15%
<11> Total portfolio value for TimothyW is 095.25 -6.83% ($-50383.46) loss
<15> !q klge.pk
<4> KLGE.PK - KLEGG ELECTRONCS - 2.80 +0.18 +6.87% (5042) Daily Range: [++++++++++] 100% (2.77 2.80) Yearly Range: [++++++++++] 1529% (0.20 0.37)
<15> rise !
<15> .n klge.pk 5
<5> KLGE.PK NEWS: Klegg Joins Home Depot and Toyota in Sponsoring The Contender Following NFL Pro Bowl on ESPN URL: http://tinyurl.com/e46wj
<5> KLGE.PK NEWS: Paula Abdul on Air Today With Ellen DeGeneres Showing Klegg's World's Smallest Color Display MP3 Player URL: http://tinyurl.com/b83yk
<5> KLGE.PK NEWS: Klegg Logo Featured in Center Ring of Nationally Broadcast The Contender Following NFL Pro Bowl on ESPN URL: http://tinyurl.com/7f7rj
<5> KLGE.PK NEWS: Klegg-Mini Is the Talk of the Town URL: http://tinyurl.com/am68t
<5> KLGE.PK NEWS: Klegg Electronics World's Smallest Color Display MP3 Player Featured on Entertainment Tonight, Insider and Picked up by NBC URL: http://tinyurl.com/8trgr
<16> !q goog
<4> GOOG - GOOGLE- 450.81 -20.3599 -4.36% (174471) Daily Range: [++++++++++] 377% (446.39 447.56) Yearly Range: [+++++++++-] 91% (172.57 475.11)
<16> !q yhoo
<4> YHOO - YAHOO INC- 35.49 -5.34 -13.31% (401687) Daily Range: [++++++++++] 241% (34.74 35.05) Yearly Range: [+++-------] 38% (30.30 43.66)
<13> !q MWD
<4> MWD - bad symbol
<13> What happen to MWD ?
<2> ANGN looking good
<2> LPTH going for blue skies
<15> i'm loving these pr's
<13> PR's ?
<13> oh
<13> Press Releases
<13> !del MWD
<4> 1 symbol(s) deleted.


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