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<0> champi0n: are you accredited?
<1> no
<0> well than no
<0> if you're not an accredited investor
<0> they can't take your money
<2> i like the term "private equity firm" much better than "hedge fund"
<0> jcv: two different businesses
<1> what is an accredited investor
<0> champi0n: do you earn over 200,000/yr?
<3> http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=CBG&t=2y&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=
<1> no
<2> jim: oh i though they were one and the same
<4> Tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/qxle9 (URL by sn0wman`)
<0> or have $1,000,000 in ***ets?
<0> jcv: nope
<1> no i dont
<2> what's the diff?
<0> ESL Investments is a hedge fund
<0> KKR & Blackstonea
<3> jim: you have to tell them your yearly earnings?
<3> income
<0> are private equity
<0> sn0wman`: yes
<3> lame
<0> that's how they stay "lightly" regulated
<2> ok jim, thanks for the worst answer ever
<1> maybe I will be able to purchase someday
<0> jcv
<0> i didn't finish
<2> lol
<0> god
<0> ****ing impatient ***hole
<0> private equity engages in mezzanine lending, management buyouts
<0> that sorta thing
<0> private equity rarely buys public securities
<3> CBG is going to soar tomorrow if the CPI isn't too bad
<2> sorry to sound rude, i hate this inabiity to convey tone in a text message problem that irc has
<5> you have to tell hedge funds your income? no thanks I'll take my chances on my own
<0> while hedge funds usually invest mainly in public securities
<5> that sounds like an invasion of privacy personally.
<0> also private equity funds
<0> all have lock in dates
<0> where a fund will be raised and invested for 5 or 10 years
<0> most hedge funds you can take your money out of at any time with afew months notice occasionally
<5> what do hedgers do, pick stocks?
<0> and at most have maybe a 2 year lock in
<0> Unter: and junk bonds and commodities
<2> thanks for the clarification im
<2> jim
<0> one bermuda based fund "west end capital mgmt" invests in reinsurance
<3> why junk bonds and commodites?
<0> in partnership with montpelier
<2> LOL WHERE IS BUMCHEESE
<2> The Securities and Exchange Commission on Tuesday accused Timothy Roberts of hiring a promoter to send junk faxes to tens of thousands of investors across the country, making it appear Infinium Labs was on the verge of launching a new gaming system, dubbed "The Phantom".
<1> they do whatever it takes to make money
<3> jim: would you invest in a 'lightly regulated' hedge fund like you describe?
<5> rofl.
<0> um
<0> i said all hedge funds are lighlt regulated
<0> so there was no need
<0> to add it
<0> heh
<0> anyway
<0> most are market neutral
<3> oh
<0> so you get a return despite what the nasdaq is doing
<0> although most have had ****ty returns
<0> the last few years
<3> do you have an example I can research?
<0> an example of whatr
<3> hedgefund
<0> ESL Investments
<3> okay
<0> run by edward s lampert
<2> man this is a great reason as to why you should never invest in .ob or .pk stocks unless you know the company quite well: http://money.cnn.com/2006/05/16/technology/infinium/index.htm
<0> Capitalpig ***et management
<1> i dont bother researching them because im pretty far off from being able to invest in them
<0> capitalist pig*
<0> is run by john hoenig
<0> he's on one of the saturday morning
<0> foxnews shows
<0> the 11:00AM EST one i think
<2> Hedge funds offer rich folks the abililty to try to mainpulate the market by pooling all their m***ive amounts of capital together...or at least that's what i like to theorize
<0> http://capitalistpig.com/
<1> cramer used to run hedge funds
<0> cramer was apart of cramer-berkowitz
<0> i think he still is
<0> a senior partner
<1> i think i might buy his book
<0> why?
<0> thee are much better books
<1> i think i may be interesting and useful
<3> hoenig has a book too
<0> get ben gramahs book
<0> um
<0> whats it called
<0> one sec
<0> ill find it
<1> ok
<2> random walk
<1> ill have a look
<2> down wall street
<2> ?
<0> no
<0> bah i can't find my copy
<2> securities analysis?
<0> ill check amazon
<0> security analysis is good
<0> but
<0> no
<0> not that one
<2> hrmm
<1> intelligent investor?
<0> yes
<3> jim: any idea what the hoenig funds holdings are? cap?
<0> read that
<2> i need to get some new books
<1> ok
<2> i think i'm going to buy all three of those
<1> ill have a look at that one
<0> security analysis is good
<3> hoenig is a big ayn rand fan heh
<0> yea
<0> he's a libertarian
<1> this is an old book
<3> I can't find a damn thing about his fund on his site
<1> its been around for a long time
<0> sn0wman`: it's illegal to advertise
<1> im reading some of the reviews on it
<0> a hedge fund
<3> haha
<3> oh
<3> as you can see I don't know **** about hedge funds
<3> so how do you get in the fund?
<2> trim some hedges
<2> :)
<2> it's a l33t club of mexican gardners
<2> so you have to be mexican to start
<2> and a gardener second
<3> heh
<3> I'm an illegal mexican
<6> as a snowman
<6> im offended
<3> haha!
<2> you know what, the term "web 2.0" is my least favorite marketing-speak term of 2006
<0> sn0w
<0> which fund
<1> what the hell is web 2.0
<2> champi0n: it's the new revolution in the web
<0> web 2.0: it has afew meanings
<1> i see
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