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<0> trying to be successful at making trades
<1> trading stocks like mattel
<1> !Q mat
<2> MAT - MATTEL INC- 15.24 -0.02 -0.13% (811800) Daily Range: [+---------] 15% (15.19 15.51) Yearly Range: [+---------] 10% (14.52 21.64)
<1> !x mat
<2> mat - NYSE, E/P(15.00),EPS(1.017),AVG V(2755400)
<0> !x mot
<2> mot - NYSE, E/P(14.88),EPS(1.603),AVG V(17987700)
<0> i like mot
<0> just gotta wait til thursday
<0> see how earnings go
<0> !q mot
<2> MOT - MOTOROLA INC- 24.03 +0.17 +0.71% (2304400) Daily Range: [++++++++--] 88% (23.79 24.06) Yearly Range: [+++++++++-] 90% (14.48 24.99)
<0> !calc 20 * 1.603
<2> 20 * 1.603 = 32.06
<0> !return 24.03 32.06
<2> The Return rate for 24.03 -> 32.06 is: 33.41656263%
<0> easy like sunday morning
<1> there forward p/e is like 18.5
<0> i know
<3> that in line with industry P/E ?
<1> !Q intc
<2> INTC - INTEL CP- 25.79 -0.18 -0.69% (6311964) Daily Range: [+++-------] 39% (25.5401 26.18) Yearly Range: [+++++-----] 56% (21.89 28.84)
<1> !x intc
<2> intc - NasdaqNM, E/P(19.47),EPS(1.334),AVG V(53593800)
<1> .d intc
<4> .d :: INTC :: Last: 25.79 Dividend: 0.32 Yield: 1.23%
<3> PE is meaningless without looking at the competitors
<1> !x nok
<2> nok - NYSE, E/P(18.23),EPS(1.03),AVG V(12104500)
<3> of course there are exceptions LOL!
<1> nok forward is 17
<3> look at the P/E of AAPL and compare it to MSFT
<1> aapl and msft are in different businesses
<1> almost
<1> they aren't even comparable when you factor in growth rates
<3> jim: AAPL definitely trying to differentriate their products over the past decade
<3> even still.. they are still end consumer related products?
<1> and msft has a market cap of almost 300 billion
<1> hard to grow from there
<5> !q CVS
<2> CVS - CVS CP- 26.75 -0.25 -0.93% (603800) Daily Range: [+++-------] 34% (26.55 27.13) Yearly Range: [++++------] 46% (22.52 31.60)
<5> w00t
<1> Super_BQ: so is mo
<1> are mo and aapl similar?
<1> !Q mo
<2> MO - ALTRIA GROUP INC- 76.44 +0.09 +0.12% (659100) Daily Range: [+++-------] 30% (76.17 77.05) Yearly Range: [++++++++--] 87% (61.34 78.68)
<1> !Q cg
<2> CG - LOEWS CAROLINA GR- 46.86 +0.39 +0.84% (756500) Daily Range: [+++++++---] 75% (46.40 47.01) Yearly Range: [+++++++++-] 97% (29.25 47.25)
<6> !Q CELG
<2> CELG - CELGENE CP- 66.64 -0.37 -0.55% (760277) Daily Range: [++++------] 46% (65.50 67.97) Yearly Range: [++++++++--] 87% (26.21 72.19)
<0> .fa mot
<7> Fundamentals :: MOT :: (Last: 24.03) (P/E: 14.88) (P/S: 1.69) (P/B: 3.77) (BV: 6.33) (EPS: 1.603)
<0> .fa nok
<7> Fundamentals :: NOK :: (Last: 18.89) (P/E: 18.23) (P/S: 2.00) (P/B: 5.17) (BV: 3.63) (EPS: 1.03)
<3> jim: well we only talking P/E
<0> mot = undervalued
<3> market cap is another thing
<0> that's all i'm sayin
<3> their "earnings"
<3> MO makes microchips.. does AAPL and MSFT ?
<1> there's a reason i'm accumulating shares of a bank with a market cap of 40 million
<1> and that I don't own citigroup
<1> !Q c
<2> C - CITIGROUP INC- 48.92 -0.11 -0.22% (409300) Daily Range: [++++------] 41% (48.73 49.19) Yearly Range: [++++++++--] 84% (42.91 49.99)
<1> !Q aig mrh wtm brkb wfc
<2> AIG - AMER INTL GROUP I- 70.05 -0.21 -0.30% (390900) Daily Range: [++++------] 41% (69.40 70.95) Yearly Range: [++++++++--] 85% (49.91 73.46)
<2> MRH - MONTPELIER RE HLD- 19.26 -0.40 -2.03% (066400) Daily Range: [++++------] 40% (19.06 19.56) Yearly Range: [+---------] 10% (16.33 43.10)
<2> WTM - WHITE MTN INS LTD- 566.50 +9.50 +1.71% (6000) Daily Range: [+++++++++-] 93% (554.25 567.40) Yearly Range: [+---------] 14% (541.00 711.99)
<2> BRK-B - BERKSHIRE HATH HL- 2952.00 +7.00 +0.24% (1740) Daily Range: [+++++-----] 52% (2941.00 2962.00) Yearly Range: [+++++++---] 74% (2612.00 3067.00)
<2> WFC - WELLS FARGO & CO - 63.25 +0.36 +0.57% (183000) Daily Range: [++++------] 40% (63.02 63.59) Yearly Range: [+++++++---] 79% (57.62 64.70)
<1> !Q tgt wmt
<2> TGT - TARGET CP- 54.38 +0.45 +0.83% (471800) Daily Range: [++++------] 48% (54.08 54.70) Yearly Range: [++++++----] 61% (45.55 60.00)
<2> WMT - WAL MART STORES- 45.40 -0.34 -0.74% (0260500) Daily Range: [+---------] 15% (45.31 45.89) Yearly Range: [++--------] 25% (42.31 54.60)
<1> !Q shld
<2> SHLD - SEARS HLDGS CORP- 123.08 -0.40 -0.32% (35449) Daily Range: [++++------] 49% (122.07 124.10) Yearly Range: [++++------] 48% (84.51 163.50)
<1> i'm gonna start acquiring shares of tgt soon
<1> in about 12 days or so
<1> i'll start buying shares
<0> how come?
<0> why are you buying all tehse banks and retailers?
<3> is that the Target (retail chain?)
<3> sorry
<0> just because they are out of favor with the streett?
<3> brb. lunch
<3> !q ups
<2> UPS - UNITED PARCEL SVC- 74.50 -0.17 -0.23% (747000) Daily Range: [++--------] 25% (74.25 75.23) Yearly Range: [++++++----] 60% (66.10 79.97)
<1> yes
<1> used to be called dayton hudson corp
<0> who?
<1> and it's not apart of the target corp in australia
<1> Super_BQ: tgt only operates in the usa
<1> the one in australia is unrelated
<1> !Q tgt
<2> TGT - TARGET CP- 54.38 +0.45 +0.83% (471800) Daily Range: [++++------] 48% (54.08 54.70) Yearly Range: [++++++----] 61% (45.55 60.00)
<8> !s clean seas
<2> No Companies found.
<8> !s seas
<2> SSW(SEASPAN CORPORATI), FOSFX(FIDELITY OVERSEAS), FSH.TO(FOUR SEASONS), ADMI.PK(ASTHMA DISEASE), UOVEF.PK(UTD OVERSEAS BK), SVSSF.PK(SEVEN SEAS PETE), HTDS.PK(HARD TRT DISEASE), CAOVF.PK(CHINA OVERSEAS L), FS(FOUR SEASONS), OSG(OVERSEAS SHIP)
<8> .qx ssw
<4> .qx SSW (last: 20.22 +0.15%) (17.20 - 21.51) (EPS: 0.00) (div: 1.14%) (O/S: 36,385,000) (float: 0)
<1> !q prpfx
<2> PRPFX - PERMANENT PT- 29.71 +0.12 +0.41% (N/A) Daily Range: N/A (N/A N/A) Yearly Range: N/A (N/A N/A)
<1> wow
<1> prpfx is up like 7% already
<1> in 2006
<1> !gold
<2> Gold - 556.10
<1> !silver
<2> Silver - 9.112
<0> .yhoo prpfx
<7> Yahoo! Finance for PRPFX: http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=PRPFX
<1> harry browne is an advisor to the fund
<0> i dont know anywhere near as much about funds as you do
<0> who is harry browne
<0> ?
<1> he was a presidential candidate in 1992 and 1996
<1> for the libertarian party
<0> oh
<1> i have $0 invested in mutual funds
<0> but you are into ETF arbitrage aren't you
<1> well
<0> ?
<1> $0 in open-ended mutual funds
<1> i do own cef/etfs
<1> although i will soon have some $ in mutual funds for my 401k
<0> how old are you jim?
<1> 22
<1> i'll be a millionaire by 30
<0> oh
<1> that's the plan
<5> I have a signed book from him Jim
<9> same
<1> mu-fill: browne?
<9> millionaire by 30
<9> or bust
<5> Yeah
<1> my friend does too
<1> my best friends mother works at fee
<5> My dad went to one of his banquets
<1> fee.org
<1> nice
<1> he speaks very well
<1> for a man who only attended college for 2 weeks
<1> hehe
<5> Actually I dunno if we still have it, my dad p***ed 4 years ago...I am 19 years old
<1> self-educated
<1> ah
<1> i see you're into opioids?
<5> I am prescribed them
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