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<0> thanks to the George W. Bush economy i am currently in the broke cycle too
<1> ecomomy is great here in SoCAL
<1> move on over
<0> hehehe
<0> sok
<0> im doing ok
<2> money is not lost or made, it only changes hands, the challenge is to make the dollars flow into your hands!
<0> im too diverse to ever really be broke
<2> RoT: how are the living expesnses there? im kind of spoiled with my low cost housing here in kansas city
<0> hey on ur IPO did ya ever think of just selling your stock over the counter ??
<1> about triple what you pay for housing
<2> 1400 sqft apartment 2 bath, 1/2 bath, $950/mo
<2> heh.
<1> everything else is avg.
<2> california does have some very nice real estate
<0> or selling it through a website like those guys that did it through a website ??



<2> however I do not like the politics of most people living there.
<1> I have not heard of that RattX
<0> well over the counter would be like a local offering
<1> this should be a 500 million dollar IPO though
<0> well how many shares ?
<3> !oil
<4> Nymex Crude Oil 9.75 Change: .34 Change%: .49 Time: 1:52
<3> .q ^spx
<5> ^GSPC (s&p 500 index,rth) last: 1292.66 -1.84 -0.14% (Vol: 0) Daily Range: (1288.51-1297.88) Yearly Range: (1153.64 - 1326.70)
<1> dont know just yet Rat
<0> and how much is the cost of the IPO (it can be as much as 1/2 or more)
<1> 200k
<0> i was thinking of doing a local offering on one of my companies
<0> u know selling the fact that it was a local company going regional
<1> yea
<0> and they could have a share for whatever the price
<0> then trade em through a website
<1> sounds like an SEC nightmare
<0> keep the money boys outta my pocket (cause they DO DIG deep)
<0> negative several companies have done it
<1> I need to read up on that
<0> yeah i need to find the name of that beer company again
<1> mmmm beeeeerr ghghghahglahgg
<0> just write the SEC
<0> they respond pretty quick actually
<1> **** if people couldnt use their broker accounts to buy the stock
<0> u wont find much on alternative stock sales methods online really since the big boys all want u to go through a major exchange
<1> and I am shopping who to use to IPO because they can get a lot of their major players to buy pre-ipo stock to help sub the cost of the IPO
<0> well my understanding is when you reach a certain volume of sales its much easier to get listed on an exchange
<0> well this might be right for you too
<0> if u sell 100 shares at 100 bucks each thats 10k... and all in your companies pocket
<0> i dont know i have never done it
<0> but its the way i am leaning
<0> i always bootstrap my projects... so i dont have to borrow expensive capital
<0> or borrow anything really
<0> www.computerdudesonline.com and www.aeflorida.com are my two current 'projects'
<6> **** the stock market
<6> the market ****s right now
<0> well **** borrowing money period
<0> u know
<6> I'm losing my ***
<0> i have seen so many companies get to the end of their IPO or loan money and go belly up
<0> dood u should be making money in this volitile market
<0> long and short
<0> and options
<0> or gain less return and the safety of a hedge
<2> do you guys hedge a lot
<0> short most tech companies, growth companies, REITs
<2> short dem niggaz
<2> short USA>
<1> ya reits are always good
<1> kick em in the shorts
<0> long transport companies, discount stores, banks
<0> hedge volitiles
<7> !q pgpm.pk
<4> PGPM.PK (PILGRIM PETROLEUM) - 12:30pm: .1095 Change(-0.0105 -8.75%) / Opened(0.13) Lastclose(0.12) / Range: Daily(0.10 - 0.13) Yearly(0.019 - 0.17) / Volume(2004211)
<2> !q LMK
<4> Error: I could not find LMK.
<2> !s lockheed
<8> LMT(LOCKHEED MARTIN)
<2> !q lmt



<4> LMT (LOCKHEED MARTIN C) - 12:31pm: .60 Change(+0.16 +0.21%) / Opened(75.48) Lastclose(75.44) / Range: Daily(75.24 - 75.63) Yearly(58.50 - 77.95) / Volume(615000)
<4> ^IXIC - 12:52pm: 6.43 Change(-12.09 -0.54%) Volume(0)
<4> ^DJI - 12:52pm: 21.73 Change(-7.04 -0.06%) Volume(162708112)
<4> ^NYA - 12:52pm: 0.91 Change(+2.70 +0.03%) Volume(0)
<9> .p2
<5> Portfolio:
<5> AMTD 50.00 (17.1700) 858.50 -12.40%
<5> PPA 100.00 (17.3200) 1732.00 +0.35%
<5> TRRDX 175.03 (17.6200) 3084.01 +2.80%
<9> ****in a
<10> .us
<5> IIP 900.00 (1.3000) 1170.00 -6.47%
<11> US/Canada: (^DJI 11452.39 +0.21%) (^IXIC 2234.14 -0.20%) (^SPX 1296.06 +0.12%) (^RUT 737.08 -0.08%) (^GSPTSE 11818.87 -0.11%) (^SPCDNX 3004.24 -0.84%)
<5> Total portfolio value for jcv is 4.51098 -1.62% ($-112.49) loss
<9> getting hosed
<0> today is Tuesday, i am thinking ride the natural downtrend
<0> bet we close down bout 30 to 50
<0> gut call
<0> im not heavily in play today, got other **** going on
<9> .calc 1.39 - 1.2
<11> Calc: 1.39 - 1.2 = 0.19
<9> .calc .19 * 9
<11> Calc: .19 * 9 = 1.71
<9> .calc .19 * 900
<11> Calc: .19 * 900 = 171.0
<4> ^IXIC - 1:22pm: 4.84 Change(-3.67 -0.16%) Volume(0)
<4> ^DJI - 1:23pm: 51.51 Change(+22.74 +0.20%) Volume(178785728)
<4> ^NYA - 1:22pm: 0.97 Change(+22.76 +0.27%) Volume(0)
<9> .calc 400 * 1.39
<11> Calc: 400 * 1.39 = 556.0
<9> .calc 500 * 1.39
<11> Calc: 500 * 1.39 = 695.0
<9> .calc 450 * 1.3
<11> Calc: 450 * 1.3 = 585.0
<9> .calc 450 * .09
<11> Calc: 450 * .09 = 40.5
<6> going up, but I'm not going to count on it staying that way
<6> +$1,590.00 +11.17%
<6> .q Bry
<5> BRY (berry petroleum c) last: 67.27 -0.16 -0.24% (Vol: 175700) Daily Range: (66.04-68.2399) Yearly Range: (40.78 - 79.95)
<6> .q bryfn.x
<5> BRYFN.X (bry jun 2006 70.0) last: 2.10 -0.50 -23.81% (Vol: 111) Daily Range: (2.00-2.50) Yearly Range: (N/A - N/A)
<9> .p2
<5> Portfolio:
<5> AMTD 50.00 (17.2800) 864.00 -11.84%
<5> PPA 100.00 (17.3400) 1734.00 +0.46%
<5> TRRDX 175.03 (17.6200) 3084.01 +2.80%
<5> IIP 900.00 (1.3000) 1170.00 -6.47%
<5> Total portfolio value for jcv is 2.01098 -1.51% ($-104.99) loss
<6> wow @ amtd
<6> .q tti
<5> TTI (tetra technologie) last: 55.57 +1.99 3.58% (Vol: 335900) Daily Range: (53.77-55.58) Yearly Range: (17.1333 - 64.00)
<9> .calc 195800 * 1.30
<11> Calc: 195800 * 1.30 = 254540.0
<9> .calc 195800 * 1.31
<11> Calc: 195800 * 1.31 = 256498.0
<9> hrmm 282,900 shares ask 1.30
<9> 317,900
<9> wow
<9> interesting
<7> !return 47.10 49.10
<8> The Return rate for 47.10 -> 49.10 is: 4.24628450106%
<9> .return 1.39 1.3
<11> The Return rate for 1.39 -> 1.3 is: -6.47%
<7> !q jsda
<4> JSDA (JONES SODA CO) - 1:29pm: .65 Change(+0.96 +9.91%) / Opened(9.69) Lastclose(9.69) / Range: Daily(N/A - 10.65) Yearly(4.15 - 10.45) / Volume(346638)
<9> i need to stop buying stocks, i've got the reverse-king-midas-touch
<12> tell me what you are buying and ill short it
<2> everything you touch goes down?
<2> jcv: i got an idea
<2> you tell me what you buy
<2> and i short it
<2> deal?
<12> BUY MSFT!#!@#


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