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<0> cause its a really confusing language
<0> I don't even speak it correctly
<1> yes i tried to learn some basics.. :S
<1> do you trade stocks in new york?
<0> ya
<0> nasdaq, nyse, and amex
<0> how about yourself?
<0> you trade for a living?
<1> no, i'm a student.. and started to do some trades about 2 years ago. but it's bad for my nerves... =)
<2> what are you studying?
<2> maybe you should just invest your money in a mutual fund
<1> informatics
<2> what is informatics
<0> thats the european way of saying computer science
<2> ?
<2> oh



<0> winn, if it kills your nerves.. you're taking on more risk than you can handle. try a less risky solution like an index fund
<1> okay.. thanks :) well if it goes up, it's like a drug.. but normally when i bought a stock, it went down more than 5% first...
<1> do you work for a bank or do you trade on your own?
<1> i heard of boys making their big money just from trading in new york
<2> own
<2> you don' need to be in nyc to trade anymore
<0> well, I trade on my own, but I work at a stock brokerage in manhattan.
<0> winn, big money is made in investment banking
<0> and on the trade desks
<0> but to get there
<0> you need a few years of experience
<0> :p
<1> and you dont have a job beside that jcv?
<2> student
<1> hehe.. ok
<0> im a student as well
<1> and what do you guys study?
<0> being in zurich would be awesome
<0> all those private banks
<2> computer arts aka graphic design
<0> finance major with a communications minor
<1> sounds both good :)
<1> !q novn
<3> NOVN (NOVEN PHARMACEUTI) - 4:00pm: .38 Change(+0.18 +1.05%) / Opened(17.14) Lastclose(17.20) / Range: Daily(17.09 - 17.46) Yearly(10.44 - 18.91) / Volume(288021)
<1> !q movn
<3> Error: I could not find MOVN.
<1> !q syst
<3> Error: I could not find SYST.
<1> :( come on search harder :)
<2> !s google
<4> GGQ1.HM(GOOGLE-A), GGEA.L(GOOGLE-A), 6494.SW(GOOGLE-A), GOOG-U.TI(GOOGLE-A), GGQ1.F(GOOGLE-A), GOOGaq.L(GOOGLE A), GOOGa.F(GOOGLE A), GOOGa.H(GOOGLE A), GOOGa.DE(GOOGLE A), GOOG(GOOGLE)
<0> http://moneycentral.msn.com/detail/stock_quote?Symbol=SWN
<5> Tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/mw5bm (URL by martin`)
<0> http://moneycentral.msn.com/detail/stock_quote?Symbol=SWN
<5> Tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/mw5bm (URL by martin`)
<0> er
<0> http://moneycentral.msn.com/content/invest/mstar/P149649.asp morningstar fairvalued etfs
<1> how would you technically rate my logitech? i fear that it will go back to 20-30... http://www.letsrock.ch/temp/
<6> I'm guessing someone was smart enough already to register it.ch
<6> or bit.ch
<0> chee.ch/and/chong
<1> =) yeah bit.ch is already taken, but it.ch is too short
<6> ohhh ok 3 char min eh?
<6> martin` : yueah I had forgotten those
<6> martin` : I was supprised (kind of it all made sense afteR) to learn the charactere Leo in that 70s Show is Tom Chong
<1> for private persons yes, but there are sites like http://zh.ch for the government
<6> played by*
<6> well that ****s
<6> :P
<6> anyuways .bit.ch would of been more fun but it's taken ;/
<6> !q nt
<6> .quote nt
<3> NT (NORTEL NTWKS CP H) - 4:00pm: .85 Change(+0.04 +1.42%) / Opened(2.82) Lastclose(2.81) / Range: Daily(2.81 - 2.88) Yearly(2.26 - 3.57) / Volume(25133000)
<5> NT (nortel ntwks cp h) last: 2.85 +0.04 1.40% , range: 2.81-2.88, vol: 25133000
<6> anyone holds any nt ?
<6> .p
<5> Portfolio:
<5> PMT-UN.TO 200.00 (20.0000) 4000.00 +20.48%
<5> RSM.V 155.00 (1.5300) 237.15 +17.24%
<5> Total portfolio value for Acid-Duck is 7.15 +20.30% ($714.87) gain
<0> isnt nortel gonna get sacked



<0> with this lucent merger
<0> its gonna drive prices down
<6> exactly my point ;p
<0> ya
<0> thats gonna take atleast 6 months though
<6> but
<6> it can't go thru worst then it's gone thru already
<0> it can go out of business
<6> hoping anyways
<0> or be bought up
<0> which is more likely
<6> so when they get bouight their common shares they sold are worthless at that point}?
<0> no they arent
<0> valuations rise to the price of the buyout
<0> at which point, shareholders can cash out
<0> or
<0> accept part of the new companies common shares
<0> you know how it works, I'm sure.
<6> well I'm a bit new to this actually I'm like 6 months in thhe game it kinda happened unexpectedly (an inheritance)
<6> made about 10 trades so far
<0> oh, well, then thats what happens heh
<6> made money on most except one or two but there's more profit then deficit :P
<6> any and all information is welcome
<6> :)
<0> good to hear
<0> single most important point to remember is to cut your losses and have a system to it
<0> and dont read message boards :)
<6> out of curiosity are you dealing with swissquotes.com or swissquote.ch (are they the same? they have wierd intro pages)
<2> pfft
<6> yeah they're full of wannabe market-makers ;p
<2> msg boards can give you some valuable insight
<6> or they can be someone trying to push up a stock
<2> true
<6> with multiple login ids
<2> true
<2> i'm not denying that
<6> that's my biggest fear of those I just stay away
<0> Acid-Duck, good practice.
<0> heh
<6> I guess if you're able to find a board that's well moderated that problem can be eliminated (ie: verify accounts with a voicecall)
<6> but I doubt if any boards go to that extent
<6> or you can deny free-email accounts (such as hotmail, yahoo, etc) and ask for an ISP e-mail account (that way you can compare duplicates by e-mail)
<6> but that would leave out alot of ppl from subscribing
<6> so basicly no one verifies if anyone has duplicate accounts they just let it go and cash out on google ad-words :P
<0> http://finance.google.com/finance?q=UST&btnG=Search
<5> Tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/mbmod (URL by martin`)
<0> lots of tobacco companies are doing new business in latin america
<0> growth market.
<0> that 2000%+ roe is pretty cool
<6> 1262%
<0> ah yes
<0> just 1262%
<0> :p
<6> juar
<6> :P
<6> just*
<7> .q sela
<7> .q sela.ob
<5> SELA.OB (seitel inc new) last: 3.65 0.00 0.00%, range: 3.60-3.65, vol: 457456
<7> .q crox
<5> CROX (crocs, inc.) last: 26.70 +0.01 0.04% , range: 26.50-27.18, vol: 144030
<7> .q bbi
<5> BBI (blockbuster inc) last: 4.51 +0.09 2.00% , range: 4.38-4.58, vol: 2158700
<8> you are shorting Blockbuster right?
<6> blockbuster eh?
<8> [10:14] <7> .q bbi
<8> [10:14] <5> BBI (blockbuster
<1> .q logi
<5> LOGI (logitech int adr) last: 39.00 0.00 0.00%, range: 38.86-39.48, vol: 192321
<8> Blockbusters days are numbered
<7> yeh
<7> definately
<7> getting ready to sell here soon
<7> bought at 3.80 at the start of the month


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