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<0> ****
<1> i think its all messed up,....probably just my uni
<0> not just yours :(
<1> but i mean, one minute we learn how to manipulate strings in Java, then next minute we have to learn actionscript and we just do pointless stuff
<0> that's a prof just wanking...learning structure, deduction, logic...
<0> flow...those are important
<1> and then we have so many group projects, and I think that is **** at uni,...they say its preparing for the "real world" but i think its bull****, cos at uni people have different commitments
<0> I understand trying to get people to work on a team...but that aint the time or place imho
<0> 99% of group projects get completed by the one person that has a clue, just to avoid a failing grade
<1> haha, yah, well at work is different, cos people get paid to be there, at uni people have other part time jobs, and things so its hard to get time together
<1> exactly
<1> happened to me recently
<0> I have honestly been paid by students to complete their project at the last minute cuz none of them had a clue and/or cared
<0> I only did it once...and I kinda ****ed them over...then I thought about the morals of it and I won't do it again
<1> hahaha,.....wanna do mine :P
<0> only if you have a ****load of money...and understand that I'll **** you over
<1> of course
<1> haha
<0> I mean...I did the code...and their project worked...I just did it in such a complicated way, it *had* to be obvious to the prof they didn't do it...
<1> the installation is finally finishing up
<0> I put **** it in the prof prolly had to look up to understand
<1> haha
<1> how old are you?
<0> 32
<1> how long you been programming?
<0> 22 years
<1> wow
<0> damn that sounds scary...I dunno that I've ever seen that in type...
<0> 22 of anything is a lot
<0> I'm an old **** :(
<1> haha yes it is
<1> do you agree that it is more difficult to pick up from scratch now?
<0> mm....documentation, samples, and help resources are a lot better...
<0> but overall things seem a little more complex
<1> yah
<1> just wanted an opinion
<0> hard to say
<1> well cos i suppose things kind of evolved when you learnt
<0> I think the current languages...vb, c#, c__...whatever...are a lot more flexible...so starting with those with no foundation in general programming logic could be really hard
<0> in c or basic, there were two ways to do something...in vb there are 50 ways to do something...
<0> sure, only 2 of them are *right*...but there are 50 ways
<1> yah
<1> I really dont know what to do when I graduate, typical huh?
<2> no
<0> don't be afraid to start at the bottom. too many people expect to do dev on day one...hell, start in tech support or something and work up
<0> you'll learn on the way, and be better when you get there
<1> do I work and get train to be professional, i dunno, or do I start my business?
<0> starting a biz is hard *** ****
<1> well I worked at Ericsson for 2 years before my degree and I worked at Sun Microsystems last year for my industrial placement
<1> well,...I kind of got into promotions, and am running 2 club nights at the moment
<1> haha, I didnt expect to havee such a long conversation here
<1> sql server is still installing
<2> exciting
<1> very
<1> Its done
<1> :)
<1> thanks for the discussion Purple, no doubt i will be back
<1> haha
<0> np...and careful with the club nights...I can give ya a long discussion about those too :)
<0> ****nuts...I just dropped an amp on my (music) keyboard
<1> is SQL Server Management Studio not included in developer edition?
<1> hmmmm it should be
<1> :|
<1> oooops, am so stupid
<3> Im back
<3> :)
<3> You here, Purple-?
<2> he better be here, we pay him well to sit here all day
<4> :)
<3> hehe
<3> The Tech people at my work decided they had to make things difficult and inefficent by storing the DateTime in 2 seperate columns. Now I need to put together a report that has it as a DateTime data type. They store the date in a column with the format of yyyymmdd and the time in a seperate column with the format of hm. What is the easiest way, in SQL Server, to convert this to a DateTime data type?
<5> nice story
<3> Think I should quit my job and become a writer? :)
<5> try cast(mydatecol as datetime)
<5> see if it gives you the date
<3> can I merge the time with that?
<5> try and see
<3> :) I'll give it a shot. Thanks for your help.
<3> Got to connect to the VPN to test it, and its gonna disconnect me from IRC. So, I want to thank you now.
<5> if not then use left() right() and put : to them
<5> why doesn it disconnect you from IRC?
<3> Ive tried this before. My problem was if it was invoiced at midnight, the time is stored as 0
<3> So it would give me #Error
<3> It disconnects me because windows tries to send me through the proxy instead of my inet connection, and they have IRC blocked on the proxy
<5> are you using windows VPN?
<3> IP***
<3> Dont get me started on ip*** though. I hate it. :)
<5> so find a setting that fixes it
<5> ...the VPN built into windows has the setting
<3> I wonder if I could use that instead of ip***.. They just gave me ip*** and told me to use it
<5> prolly can't ;)
<3> We'll, i'll be back soon. Thanks for your help, and thanks for the conversation.
<5> hold it
<5> nevermind
<4> what i want to know is how hm encapsulates all time scenarios...
<5> probably hhmm
<4> ;)
<5> or
<5> hmmmmmmzzz
<4> i wanted to hear it from Vension! :)
<0> darken: you used to pay me well...you haven't blown me in weeks now...
<4> Who's going to the conference in Orlando?
<0> who has time for conferences
<0> 98% losers, 2% awesome people that can help you...
<0> although you do get to go clubbing on the company dime...
<4> It's 3 days out of the office, Purple
<4> exactly
<4> It's a networking opportunity, too
<0> sifting through the 900 cards to find the 3 useful ones gets old
<4> this is why you don't have time for conferences...you're too busy working *hard*
<5> penis networks meh
<5> Gamble, are you going?
<0> I don't have time for conferences cuz it's just cheaper to go clubbing on *my* dime and not bother meeting anybody I'll never call again
<4> Quant, I thought you were one of the ones going?
<4> ok, Purple
<0> maybe comdex jaded me too much
<5> what kind of clubbing?
<0> you name it
<5> are there any girls?
<0> if there aren't, I'm not going
<0> and hopefully they either aren't wearing much, want to **** my girl, or both...
<4> sweet
<5> lol
<5> so you are going with you girl? then i am going :)
<4> !
<0> quant: if you don't have a vagina, prolly not invited...no offense :)
<5> hehe
<5> i got a mangina
<0> I mean...I'm sure there are folks at the club that would appeal to....
<5> what club?
<3> Are you still here Quant?
<5> yup
<3> No luck. :) I think it may be because I am working through Access
<5> access?
<5> so just use something like
<4> brutal :)
<3> Yea. The IT team wont let me create a table on their database, so I had to create it in access and add a link to the SQL Server
<5> mid(mycol,3,4) + "/" + right(mycol,2) + "/" + left(mycol,4) + " " + left(mytime,2) + ":" + right(mytime,2)
<3> The problem with that, is if the time is Midnight, it is stored as "0"
<5> so put IIF()
<3> Do you see any advantage to storing the date and time this way? It makes no sence to me. :)
<6> Oops. My Laptop ran out of juice.
<6> <-- Vension
<4> you're right; it makes no sense
<2> <-- Version
<7> <-- pants.
<3> hehe
<3> Is there a function in Access that will let me format a number? The equivilent of Excels Format(number,"0000")
<3> ?
<4> lol did you use the Format() function?
<3> Nope, it appears to be used for somthign else in Access
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