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<0> 100 ch/m is like 20WPM right?
<0> they used to guage it in 5-letter Words per minute
<1> Guest: yes
<0> like you needed 5WPM to get a novice license to operate CW on HF
<1> mhm
<1> this dude is at 35WPM
<0> but that was years ago
<0> I can't imagine 35WPM...it's gotta sound like binary hash
<1> I'm uploading a sample now
<1> I once did an italian at 45WPM, using computers though ...
<1> 't was like a long burp
<0> still, thats cool that they are still using CW
<1> the only way to communicate when all others fail ;)
<0> exactly... I liked it when they had 'field days' and set up mock emergency equipment and antennas
<1> for speech, if you send 1000W with a 6000Hz bandwidth, and you send 1000W CW with a 50Hz bandwidth you may divide 6000 by 50 and multiply 1000 by that result, then you get the effective effect
<1> so 1kW phone will be like 12kW CW ... then you have gain in your antenna etc etc



<0> yeah, it just doesn't take as much signal to be intelligable
<1> you can reach the whole world with as little as 100mW, if you use the right technique
<0> ...yeah and are on an island noone has any QSLs from
<0> heh
<1> hehe
<1> http://www.syscodex.com/hb9cv.wav
<0> how big is the file?
<1> 156KB
<1> I think 2sec
<1> yep, about that
<0> so thats 35WPM?
<1> yes
<0> I guess I have heard faster, I did a lot of SWL in 70s and 80s
<0> when I lived in the country where the RF noise was quiet
<2> damn what's this nerd ****t
<0> quant, you hang out in a DBA channel and you're complaining about 'nerd ****?'...dood, take a break
<2> databases are one thing
<2> ****en morse code?
<0> DBs are more esoteric than morse code
<2> morse code is disgusting
<0> SQL is disgusting
<0> so what?
<2> no it isnt
<0> quant you fail the nerd test, you need to go back to school
<3> yeah, but some of us get *paid* to do SQL...
<0> yeah and some of us have been paid to do SQL for a decade
<0> so what?
<2> and morsecode for free is just NERD
<0> well, quant, I'd coment about your hobbies, but, I'd rather not
<2> i don't have any playa
<0> quant ops this channel for free
<2> lawl
<0> ...need I say more?
<2> its more effortless than ****en morse code
<0> thats right just a coupla mode commands and a loud mouth, and you're all in
<0> lunchtime
<2> none of the above
<4> can i insert a string that has an apostrophe in it to an nText field? if so how? or any docs?
<2> you can
<2> why are you using the text field
<5> this is a surprise that, returned tabular data sorted in UDF used to display sorted data in sql 2000, but i have to order-by again in sql 2005
<4> no reason in particular, it's a notes field for an item
<2> use varchar
<4> i read somewhere that nText is faster
<4> but wastes more space
<6> heh
<2> faster?
<2> you'd use text if you are storing large chunks of text
<6> And what does an apostrophe have to do with anything?
<2> for each ' you need another '
<2> so like this
<6> Use parameters. Dynamically constructing SQL is a bad idea.
<2> 'that''s a nice ***'
<4> yeah halo
<4> i was just cutting a corner on this one cause it's just for me and a friend to use, nobody else :P
<4> haven't done params before but i've been told a few times now how safe they are
<2> what are you using, vb6?
<7> Halo_Four: you mean parametrised SQL queries is a bad idea?
<7> oh, no, you don't
<7> what's "dynamically constructing SQL"?
<8> exec (@blah)



<7> and why is it a bad idea?
<7> oh.
<7> yeah, that is a bad idea.
<7> specially if you don't sanetise your strings
<4> hehe im doing exec @blah & @blah & @blah
<4> hehe
<9> *sigh* some peopel never learn
<2> cosyc, i've told you before not to do that :(
<4> I know
<4> im doing params right now!
<2> you shouldnt use one stored proc to work with two tables
<9> not only is it slow but its a security risk
<4> will i be able to use params with nText
<4> or must i use varchar?
<2> dont use nText
<2> well
<2> how long is the text?
<4> im not putting a limit on it
<4> if somebody wanted to paste a page or two of text, i want that to be ok
<10> nText to varchar ... that's a far jump
<2> ok then use text
<2> and why nText, you want unicode?
<10> bingo
<2> who the hell are you?
<4> hehe
<2> Telarian?
<10> No, the CW nerd
<2> pose
<2> nah not you, Guest1 is definitely nerd :)
<10> hehe
<2> gym, bbl
<4> quant
<4> any idea how come i get an internal 500 error on this: cmd.parameters.append cmd.createparameter("tblName", adBigInt, adParamInput, 0, value1)
<8> what gives the error?
<8> have you tried to debug it?
<4> im not sure how to debug it through ie and iis errors
<8> in devenv, F6, and attach to w3wp.exe
<8> then when it throws an exception, it should stop in the debugger
<8> w3wp on the iis server that is
<4> where do I press F6?
<8> debugging is 1000x better than guess-and-test
<4> im coding in notepad
<8> you don't have a debugger?
<8> you don't have devenv?
<4> w3wp is on my iis box
<4> no, i work from notepad :P
<8> why
<4> because i don't know of any good devenvs
<8> devenv is the IDE for visual studio
<8> devenv.exe
<4> heh, im doing asp, not asp.net
<4> i don't have visual studio
<4> i guess it's free these days isn't it?
<4> will that free edition work?
<10> ever heard of express ?
<8> i don't know how to debug cl***ic asp but i ***ume it's pretty similar, maybe i'm wrong
<4> so do i have to load it onto the iis box?
<8> you can usually remote debug it
<4> ok
<4> if i use parameters.append, do i have to have a stored procedure
<6> no
<4> halo: im searching msdn and stuff do you know of a doc or example on using parameters to avoid dynamic creates of statements, that doesn't use stored procs? i can't find one :|
<6> Just stick ? into the statements.
<4> set cmd = server.createobject("adodo.command")
<6> You don't need to paste code.
<4> ok
<4> but i grrr i can't find any examples that relate to what im doing or any docs
<4> sigh.
<4> i want to show you waht i am doing
<4> i am sure my code is wrong
<6> Don't need an example.
<6> Stick a ? into the SQL statement, then add parameters in order for each parameter.
<4> i've done that
<4> do i need to do ('?', '?')


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