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<0> plan on being coordinator yes :)
<1> the best advice you can give a junior db guy
<1> is: irc.efnet.org #sql
<2> Quant: what you just love answering stupid questions?
<2> :0
<1> and dont tell them your nick
<3> Quick way of chasing them out of the field, too.
<0> lol i'm not really a db guy yet lol most of my programming dealt with systems programming and designing parsing and workorder generating tools to eliminate tedious boring work for myself lol
<1> sit here and watch them ask what you are asking
<0> cuz i despises me some tedious boring number crunching bull**** lol
<1> what kinda numbers?
<1> Halo: do you send your guys here?
<0> job costing, etc
<1> what kidna company?
<0> that and pulling data from raw data sources and arranging it in reports
<0> the way my predessor was doing it took him hours
<0> **** a bunch of that
<0> lol
<2> XenReborn: atleast you are admitting that ur not a db guys... i hate the ones who come here "knowing" everything about dbs but cant do a simple select
<0> oh i'm claiming i'm just starting with sql
<1> so start using a real DB
<0> lol i just learned how to connect to mysql with delphi tonight LOL
<1> and a good language
<0> yeah i think so too.. unfortunately its not in demand in my area :(
<0> everyone uses ****ty ms products
<0> borland is the way to go :)
<1> i dont know what to say, you've read my mind
<2> lol
<0> i'm biased just like you :P
<3> Shame that Borland doesn't believe you.
<0> yeah
<0> the .net crap
<0> sigh
<3> No, Borland is getting rid of all of it.
<0> another standard i have to learn :(
<3> They're getting out of programming entirely.
<0> really ?
<3> At least from the dev side, they're going to concentrate on lifecycle ****.
<1> poor borland
<0> define lifecycle
<3> Yep, they announced about a month ago that they're selling their IDE products to another company.
<1> so much effort
<3> Delphi, VC++Builder, Kylix, all of it
<1> and nothing
<0> to who ?
<3> Borland totally dropped the ball.
<1> spent their lives on it eh?
<2> heh
<3> To someone who will buy it. They don't have a buyer yet.
<1> they might aswell get into consulting
<0> what is lifecycle ?
<0> <--- hasn't been in college for 3 years
<0> lol
<1> ^^ future director of IT talking
<2> lol
<3> project management, etc.
<0> ahhh so they're just gonna subvend pro services ?
<2> hey the CIO doesnt need to know these stupid technical terms
<3> http://www.borland.com/us/company/news/press_releases/2006/02_08_06_borland_acquires_segue_software.html
<3> "In addition, Borland announced plans to seek a buyer for the portion of its business ***ociated with the Integrated Development Environment (IDE), including the award-winning Borland Developer Studio (Delphi C++Builder and C#Builder) and JBuilder product lines."
<3> Borland got fat and lazy.
<1> but it was getting pretty cool wasnt it?
<0> :( damn it
<1> at some point, their IDE was better than VS
<3> Yeah, like 3 years ago.
<1> and a buncha cool controls
<1> it was like 6 cd's
<3> And the VCL is significantly better than MFC
<0> 4 :P
<4> oh and clip art?
<2> big != better
<0> bds 2006 was 4 :P
<3> But Borland slowed down. They couldn't even jump on the .NET bandwagon right.
<0> only thing that ****ed
<3> And .NET left PLENTY of opportunity for them.
<0> was their docs
<0> it was formatted great
<0> but incomplete
<3> There are TWO third-party COBOL language providers which have better .NET support and integration and full language support than Borland managed to hack together into Delphi.
<3> I dunno, it boggles my mind how Borland let themselves fall like this.
<1> aren't people in EU still coding Delphi?
<5> bigness
<0> so umm how's java comin along ?
<0> LOl
<1> Java seems strong
<0> still as slow as it used to be ?
<3> Java seems to be picking up a lot more steam in the server-side area, which is kind of bizarre.
<0> yeah..
<2> XenReborn: do you just listen to what everyone tells you and reverberate it to whoever that will listen?
<1> freaking CIO's are weird
<3> I don't have a lot of experience with Java, but I understand that the UI libs are atrocious, at least in comparison.
<1> yup
<1> they ugly
<1> check oracle tools
<0> what i hate about java is the api
<0> the sheer bulk of it
<2> its fairly easy to look up
<0> everything getting deprecated every patch release..
<1> you know, i just realised
<1> no one in here actually uses sybase
<2> javadocs are kinda easy to look at
<2> whats a sybase?
<4> hah
<1> and most companies on wallstreet are on sybase
<1> therefore no wallstreet programmers here
<4> thats just one street
<2> Quant: i beg to differ
<2> my hotel is about 10 feet away from wall street
<2> its a block and a half away from NYSE :)
<1> what are you doin gthere?
<2> ordering room service? :)
<1> meh?
<2> im actually consulting over at aig
<1> oh nice
<2> thank god i dont actually work for AIG
<1> what are you doing?
<2> hate that company
<4> converting companies from sybase
<2> BPM
<2> www.pega.com
<1> what's BPM
<2> basically a company that automaizises (spelling) business processing
<1> beats per minute
<6> blood pressure monitor
<4> business process modeling foo'
<2> management
<2> but ya close enough :)
<6> lol
<1> hehe
<1> i had it in my mind
<6> funny what an acronym can mean
<6> to differnet people
<2> heh
<5> Butt Plug Manufacturing
<2> TheGamble: ok ya thats the real one :)
<1> so like, wouldn't you earn more if you was worken for aig
<2> nah
<2> i know what hte guys there make
<2> a lot less than me
<6> heh AIG
<1> so what do you do, you're the analyst?
<6> arent they under scrutiny by teh FCC ?
<5> AIG makes the loot, not the guys :)
<2> and besides... AIG has bee npaying for me to live in NYC in a hotel for hte past 6 months
<1> arrakis: their pres was ****ing around or something
<2> AIG is 600 billion revenue a year
<6> SicLuDe is that big or small?
<2> thats a ****load of 0s
<1> haha
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