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<0> any1 here alive? <1> you mean ORDER BY CASE WHEN field = NULL then -1 ELSE field END <0> no <0> its without using if or case <1> then what do you mean <0> i dont remember the syntax <0> its order by field1 starting with 4 <0> or somthing like this <0> and it start the order from the value 4 <1> try not ignoring cojones <0> and go on <0> uh? <2> what rdbms? <3> Carpathia: is it possible to use that function on an Access system? <0> its a bunch of letters <1> oh god, no
<1> [rb] thats mssql . i always ***ume mssql when ppl dont say otherwise <1> and if it doesnt work, then its no longer my problem :) <0> what the ****? <0> what was that good for? <4> sigh. <1> why dont you just calm down needhelps <0> to show off ur highly op power? <0> im totaly calm <1> good <0> i dont know why he kicked me <4> Read the kick message, read the topic, then read the small flood of rules that you get when you join. <4> All of which you obviously haven't done yet. <0> i flooooooood? <1> because he asked you a question <1> and all you do is talk, without answering that VERY important question <0> i didnt know it was address to me <0> duh <0> say needhelps: <0> or somthing like this <1> no <4> Someone really needs to work on their reading comprehension. <0> i thought he was asking the channel a question <1> you could try following the conversation perhaps <0> excuse me? <1> oh go away <1> im tired of you too now <0> he said 2 words <0> whats rdbmps <0> or somthing like that since i had no idea it was reffer to me or even what it ment <3> Carpathia: ah, I see, yeah, I started my question with [Using Access] =) no problem.. I can write an equivalent function in VBA in Access <0> ok so now lets start this again <3> Carpathia: although your function is very good <1> hehe <0> does rdbmps have something to do with my kind question? <5> using mssql, can you use select into to insert records in a table that already exists? if so, specify the fields that the data goes into? <1> its rdbms <1> what database system <0> sorry <0> oh <0> sql server obviously <1> yes tapped <1> insert into blah (f1, f2) select f1, f2 from table2 <0> but its a part of the sql language i dont think its system depandent <5> cool <1> there is no standard sql in the real world <0> hmm well there is <3> Phargle: you mentioned the use of a fulltext index.. can you elaborate just a little so I know where to start searching? <1> no, theres standards. <1> thats not the same <3> ANSI92? <0> yes <0> well its a standard <1> sure, but if you adhere to it fully, it usually makes things very difficult <0> does any1 know the syntax to my question pls? <3> needhelps: right, and that statement is the same on m*sql oracle sybase, etc. <1> no because we dont really know what youre asking <0> [rb]: do u remember the syntax? <1> why do ppl come here for help, then proclaim theyre experts <0> Carpathia: i ask this <3> needhelps: I can't find your question in your 200 statements, try calming down and writing one clear question and waiting for an answer
<3> needheps: that is, write your question and hit <Enter> ONCE. Then just wait. <0> in the order by clause there is a syntax to let u start the order from a certion value (or display that value and then order) <0> like order by field1 asc - so the asc say to order it from top to buttom <0> so im saying there is such a syntax to let me do what i've asked <0> i just cant remember it <1> so when ordering from 1-10 you want to start from 4 ? <0> and ask if some1 remember it <3> needhelps: jesus kid, drink less coffee <0> well in more general (its not numbers) <1> heh <0> and with out the if <0> or case sentance <1> yes, lets keep a simple example <1> so when ordering from 1-10 you want to start from 4 ? <0> let me write it again <6> [rb]: if you use mssql try reading bout the freetext clause to get your feet wet without getting bogged down in the tech side of createing fulltext catalogs and such <3> needhelps : google search "sql order by syntax" - first response: http://www.1keydata.com/sql/sqlorderby.html <0> in the order by clause there is i belive something called starting with or somthing like this to make the order start from a certion value or to display a certion value on top and then go on with the order <0> already used google btw <2> and you use what database? <3> phargle: again, no mssql, just msAccess <0> sql server <2> its not part of order by <1> there is nothing like that for sql server <2> doesnt mssql use limit? <0> are you all sure? <1> unless you use CASE <2> oh.. mssql uses top <1> i dont even know what hes asking anymore <0> CoJoNEsXX: are u sure? <1> you want to do pagination, is that it ? <2> so use top in a subquery and then a subquery <0> pagination? <2> yeah he does Carpathia <2> SELECT TOP 5 * FROM Users <1> jeez, what a long winded way of explaining it <4> mysql has pagination functions. I don't think any real db does. <0> i dont want to select top <2> select top 5 * from (SELECT TOP 10 * FROM Users) order by blah desc <2> something like that <1> i thikn you dont even know what you wanna do yourself <2> my mssql is horribly rusty <0> lets say i have a field containing 10 numbers from 1 to 10 <0> and u want to display it in asc order from the number 3 <1> and then what? <2> needhelps http://www.dotnetjunkies.com/WebLog/warstar/archive/2004/07/13/19135.aspx <0> i.e 3 1 2 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 <1> what when it goes 3,4,...10, after that ? <1> yes, you use CASE <1> damn, youre infuriating dude <0> sorry if i upset u <0> but i meant with out case <1> why without case? <1> youre imposing restrictions without giving any real reason <0> CoJoNEsXX i believe there is a simpler way than 3+ inner selects <2> there isnt <0> Carpathia: im sorry that i impose this restriction <2> thats why there are articles on it <1> ORDER BY CASE WHEN field = 3 THEN -1 ELSE field END <0> but its a must <1> im sorry too <1> then at least explain why you cant use case <2> cause he thinks its easier <1> who can say <1> since it seems he wont <4> needhelps: Check here. Then, once you'ev figured out that there is NOT OTHER WAY, feel free to use the case method <4> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/tsqlref/ts_sa-ses_9sfo.asp <1> also if you cared to read obooks online, youd see the EXACT syntax for ORDER BY and realise what a fool youve been <1> Syntax <1> [ ORDER BY { order_by_expression [ ASC | DESC ] } [ ,...n] ] <4> Maybe he's thinking fetch relative for cursors. <4> Dunno.
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