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<0> hi there
<1> hi, stu!
<0> i'm picking up an ultra 60 to learn solaris on, is 9gb enough for a reasonable install of sol 10?
<1> yea
<0> sun.com suggests 2gb minimum
<1> 9gb is fine
<1> full solaris 10 with all the goodies is about 5gb
<0> ah, cool
<0> i will be setting up an external array with vxvm eventually, for stuff like oracle
<1> how much memory?
<0> 2gb
<1> oh
<1> you know
<1> you migh twant to find an 18gb disk
<1> you'll probably want 2gb for swap
<1> at least, rather
<1> 18s are cheap I believe
<0> wekk 9gb still seems enough? 5+2
<1> well
<1> you'll want more than 5gb
<0> i was going to mirror 2x9 in the workstation and say have 3x18.2's externally
<1> you dont' want to run your filesystem at 99%
<1> it's not a lot to play with :>
<0> will solstice allow me to raid 0 two internal disks?
<1> sure, but why would you want to do that?
<0> to get the 18gb :)
<0> the workstation is coming with two 9's in it
<1> especially if they are your root drives
<0> the place i bought it from do have 18's too
<0> and 36's
<0> the 36's were full height though
<1> ewe
<0> which fit, but i'm unsure as to their performance
<1> probably slow as ****
<0> that's what i was thinking
<1> if you had 18s, you could mirror them and have room to play with
<1> 9 is just cutting it clsoe
<0> well, say i mirror the 9's, once i get my external array, i can move parts of the filesystem to it yeah?
<1> oh, sure
<1> do like a 6gb /, 2gb swap, 1gb /var
<0> i was planning on doing a fairly minimal install to start off with anyway
<0> if such a thing exists
<1> you'll need those just to boot
<0> ok, thanks
<1> anything else is pretty optional, and putting boot-needed partitions externally could be a gamble
<0> any recommendations on learning solaris?
<0> i considered the dummies book
<1> man
<1> I've been doing this too long to recommend a good beginner's guide
<0> :)
<1> unix systems administrator handbook
<1> latest edition
<0> i'm ok with unix..
<1> thats what I used early on
<0> i just need to learn the relevant Sun items
<1> actually
<1> docs.sun.com
<0> mainly enterprise stuff, but the basics will need to be learnt too
<0> :)
<1> and look at the collections, specifically the system admin collections
<1> they are actually really cool
<0> i'm really just looking at picking up jumpstart, netbackup, vxvm, oracle
<1> like, "how do I...."
<0> maybe some sun ray stuff
<1> they're fre pdfs, so you can make your own books
<0> alrighty, i'll check them out
<1> yea, they have them for each OS version
<2> heh
<2> vxvm
<2> is not exactly something you *pick* up
<2> more like a lifetime of learning
<0> :)
<0> i'm contractor scum, so as long as i can 'do it', somehow, i'm happy
<1> we are doing architecture and bugeting planning soon
<1> I will try to slip in all types of ****
<1> some v490s
<1> t2000s
<1> maybe some veritas
<1> oracle RAC
<1> **** YEA
<0> the place i've just left.. i can't remember what sun equipment we had.. fairly hardcore stuff
<0> and a lot of it
<1> I'll never get any of it, but it'll be fun haggling
<0> lots of sun, lots of emc, lots of ibm
<1> where was this?
<0> 5th largest bank in the world
<1> ah
<1> yea
<0> the mainframe was z/OS
<1> was that just in your department?
<0> i was in intranet projects
<1> ah, portals and the like for customers?
<0> windows+iis -> solaris/oracle -> aix/websphere -> ibm/z/OS
<0> no, internal stuff, intranet
<1> oh
<3> stu, you a 'framer?
<1> sorry
<0> there was an internet team doing the external stuff, same role really
<1> I mis-read
<0> sparkle_: a what
<3> mainframes
<0> nah
<3> ah k
<0> i'm a windows kinda guy
<0> ex microsoft
<1> boo, windows
<0> eh it works :)
<3> i started off my career hacking S/370 ***embly
<3> so
<0> cool
<3> it was all looking up after that
<3> :)
<1> sparkle gets mroe and more hardcore each and every day
<3> well, the asm was kinda cool
<3> but CICS blows
<1> sparkle
<0> yeah, this was CICS stuff
<1> just save me the suspense
<3> ISAM & VSAM kinda cool
<0> CICS and DB2
<4> <1> sparkle gets mroe and more hardcore each and every day
<1> what is the GEEKIEST thing you have done, professionally
<4> kae, I've been trying for years to get sparkle onto irc.
<4> kae
<4> you dont want to know the answer to that question.
<1> I can take it
<3> umm
<4> sparkle outgeeks everyone here.
<1> I know
<3> i ran root dns for .us
<1> I want to know how much
<0> sparkle_: the only asm i do is embedded stuff
<1> I live on the edge
<3> only for a couple years tho
<0> i used to do amiga asm :)
<1> eh
<4> kae, you asked professionally.
<1> I know
<1> if I asked about 'personally' I might've gotten some answer about renaissance fair
<3> can't even keep track any more, i kinda hit burnout a few years back
<4> well, thats pretty deep for someone's professional geek credential.
<5> hi, i've some problems with solaris
<3> nah, i'm not a fairewhore
<4> perhaps if you changed your nickname.
<4> that would be a good first step
<5> when i insert the CD, it starts the grub stage2 loaders and i get the grub's prompt, why ?
<4> maybe when you want to use solaris, you should change your name to bill or scott
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