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<0> I wonder if phae actually knew the guy ;>
<1> no
<1> one of my former colleagues was
<2> ahh
<0> you were working there when it happened though?
<0> man, that must've been a ****ty day
<1> nope
<1> at that point they were still very much Paine Webber
<1> it was only starting to get integrated
<0> ahh
<0> basically you sat there thinking "****s to be those guys..." then, eh
<1> well, I think @stake did a lot of the forensic work
<1> those dirty evil hackers!
<1> it's a conspiracy!
<1> if you read page 2 of the article, the lawyers was trying to cast doubt on the whole investigative process, blaming everyone from @stake to the secret service
<0> right



<0> "you can't trust hackers"
<0> where the FBI also knows that some of the best hacker-catchers are ex-hackers
<3> or rather those that didn't get caught
<4> it's funny how breaking into some worthless system gets you more time than murder
<3> it's even worse when you report your findings in an official way and have the full legal force for a hot-headed manager bearing down on you!
<3> some people just don't understand security, if nobody reports it everything's obviously 100% secure
<5> hiyo bitches
<4> the thing with security is there's no such thing as security
<4> it's only ever an illusion, and people don't like that being pointed out
<3> :)
<5> hah, its funny you mention a co can claim its 100% secure if its not reported
<5> my co did that last month
<3> ever seen those 'Hacker Safe' buttons on websites ;)
<5> they had their front page deface b/c of some bs M$ setting in iis
<5> webdiv or something
<5> hahhah
<5> thats it
<4> haha
<5> you cant let a webdav deface go by and still claim "never been hacked" status
<5> i dbout there is a co in existence that hasnt had some sort of breach at one time or another
<6> (hi)
<6> (osx question)
<6> if I drag and drop a file in the finder, it _moves_ it. What key/etc can I hold down while I drag and drop to make it _copy_ ?
<3> (a completely random guess) Option-Drag?
<4> get a usb mouse with multiple buttons
<6> teabag : option-drag ? That doesn't do it - it does a move
<4> or.. use the mouse to click the open terminal icon, then use the mouse pointer to carefully position your terminal and keep focus while simultaneously typing cp file newfile
<4> grouphug
<7> <4> I think the only reason she's stayed with me this long is because I support her and pay for everything she does. I think that's the only reason she has *** with me. It's like she lays down, lets me get off, then gets up and leaves to spend my money. Bad thing is I let her get away with it, so oh well. I wish she acted like she cares.... (254855586)
<4> hehe. sounds like an equitable arrangement
<4> grouphug
<7> <4> I stole five pink gl*** beads from a garden centre when i was seven. I loved them so much i just had to have them and it never occured to me it was a bad thing. My mom found them when we got home and was really understanding saying she would take them back by herself so i wouldn't get told off by strangers. I liked them so much that i asked her if she could buy me some when she got there and my mom said yes and i was [-snip-] (361999086)
<3> grouphug
<7> <3> I think I'm in love. I've only known him a week. I'm four months out of a 5 year, unhealthy relationship. I've dated three guys since I've been single but haven't clicked with any of them. Until I met John. And all I do is think about him. He says I make him very happy. I confess that I am stupid enough to jump into this blindly and with my heart open. All that pain and suffering again would be worth the risk. (306045249)
<8> has anyone done linux jumpstarts from solaris
<9> linux uses kickstart, right ?
<9> or is there jumpstart for linux too ?
<3> _Tenchi_: closest i've seen is redhat's anakonda(?) and suse's install system
<9> redhat and suse both use kickstart
<10> anaconda is the installer, you feed it input from a kickstart server
<9> yeah
<10> I had to setup a ks server for a rhel clone last year at a job
<10> pretty easy
<10> the most annoying part is trying to customize the linux desktop
<10> grouphug
<7> <10> When I was five years old, I snuck into my parents' room at night and cut my mom's arm with a knife. In the morning, she woke up to a large amount of blood. She still doesn't know I did it. (664177174)
<3> Conner: have you done much with gnome? was a nightmare to try and lock it down for desktop systems
<10> harryr enough to agree with you :)
<10> nightmare is an accurate description
<3> ah we scrapped it after about a week and just gave em xfce and a getting-started tutorial
<10> I basically gave up and put a symlink to a system-wide folder with launchers in it into ~/Desktop
<3> ah :)
<10> grouphug
<7> <10> I'm afraid people don't like me once they get to know me (115551027)
<5> sup connor
<10> hey tarb not alot
<10> you?
<10> oindering sleep in a couple hours, gotta be in early by 6am all week
<8> well the guy here previously has done some mad customisations so we can install linux from solaris
<8> but cant seem to figure it out its some total mad scripts



<10> ummm, that's actually not too hard...
<9> so really just using solaris as a kickstart server ?
<10> since a kickstart server just a tftp/nfs server
<8> yes
<10> well tftp/dhcp/nfs/web/ftp
<8> Connor : yes i would imagine not but he uses some wrappers for custom package installation etc
<10> kAv_ I think he snowed you :) customizing package installs is simple with ks
<8> wit ks yes but not with solaris
<10> ks is ks, it's os-agnostic
<10> since it's just over standard protocols
<10> doing it under freebsd or aix would be equally simple
<10> not trying to be a downer...I just think he may have talked up his mad linux skillz :-P
<4> yeah.. basically you just need some sort of file server to export the distribution and kickstart script
<8> ok ok i got its
<8> there is some allstart application
<8> and connor no he wasnt smug about it i was just trying to figure out what is happening
<8> trying to get x2100 suplemental cd to work over the network
<10> that a linux driver cd of some sort?
<10> you could just install the rpms in the %post section IIRC
<10> or customize the installation files so it gets included in the main distro, though the latter is easier
<8> it uses some opendos thing and then it mounts the image from within
<8> so it boots up this image and that contains another image from within
<10> grouphug
<7> <10> It made my day to see my 18 year old punk next door neighbor in handcuffs being put into a police car this evening. It turns out he's been banging some young elementary school aged girls from down the street, and they told their parents they'd been having *** with him! I overheard the cop tell the mother that the girls positively identified the punk kid as the one who's been "raping" them so he'll be facing quite a few [-snip-] (384612651)
<8> grouphug
<7> <8> One time I was in an elevator with two attractive college girls that I did not know. These two little hotties had some piercings... so I asked them if they wanted to see my cock ring. They both said yes. So I whipped out my **** that had no piercing. To say the least they were not impressed. I scurried off the elevator with the chuckle only a misfit like myself can boast. About a week later I was going to visit a friend [-snip-] (954099195)
<11> grouphug
<7> <11> i have a boyfriend. he turns 19 monday...i'm only 15....my mom thinks he's 17 and my dad thinks he's 16..i hate lying to them..but if they knew they would never let me see him again..i don't think i could deal with that..sometimes i go further with him than i want too..but i want to make him happy i feel so pathetic..... (365125349)
<0> I bet she touches him
<8> thats what they all say
<12> she touches his weener!
<13> y0h
<13> what is everyone using for FCIP?
<13> or maybe not everyone, but anyone who is doing it
<4> gl*** pigeons
<14> so my basement has drywall
<9> sun's site has been on the fritz all day
<4> better water it quick
<4> grouphug
<7> <4> My Mother had a cancer scare, and I love her dearly, but I felt bad that she didn't really have it. (859142498)
<4> okay..
<10> grouphug
<7> <10> I like to wear women's clothing... in public. Then I like to pretend to be attracted to men, and bring them home. Right before we get to "that point" I let them know. Most of the time they don't care... (901851337)
<0> grouphug
<7> <0> awhile ago i hooked up with my guy-friend. i have a boyfriend now but i still fantasize about my guy-friend and i really want to have *** with him. we never did. i wish we had done it while i was single and we had the chance. now its too late. it's almost a huge regret. im so mad at myself for not having *** with him. but im slowly getting over it. (773612344)
<15> seen psyche_
<7> psyche_ was last seen on IRC 80 days, 38 minutes and 49 seconds ago, saying: cc only [Sat Apr 22 19:59:32 2006]
<15> guy only ever logs & lurks
<0> that was my momma!
<3> grouphug
<7> <3> i'm a 21 year old female and i always get asked out at gas stations by 40 year olds. And i like younger guys (2 yrs younger is the youngest i'll go) when most females seem to like older guys. (609355783)
<9> any of you guys do any installations on ultrasparc T1000s ?
<0> several peopel here have
<0> phus, swk
<0> maybe tsuwa?
<9> just wondering if the SC can mount and install from remote CDs and DVDs
<16> quickie q for someone... im thinking of buying a sunfire 280r for personal crapware crash test dummy foo stuff ... 2gb of ram ... 140gb drive dual proc... for 900... is that too much ...
<0> tenchi, rather than boot net from obp?
<0> 280s are BIG ****ing boxes
<16> well plus maybe -150+ for shipping ..
<0> loud, hot
<0> heavy
<0> big
<16> yea i know and theyre heave as sin
<0> under powered
<9> Kae: correct
<0> get something smaller
<16> i was wondering about it because its uIII no?
<9> Kae: in the absence of a jumpstart server on the net
<0> tenchi, I've never tried
<16> for the price is it bad though
<0> tenchi, setting uip a jumpstarter server to even do interactive install is really really easy
<16> i thought of another a netra but im not crazy about em
<0> no, 900 is I think okay


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