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<0> POSIX
<0> depends on what the app does
<0> if it just calls localtime() or what
<0> just dive into /usr/share/zoneinfo
<0> fix the file and run zic on it
<0> that should take care of it
<1> that's pretty much the only way to patch 2.6 and below
<2> yea
<0> it really should be fine
<0> the libc patches fix some anal stuff
<0> like the firmware patches
<2> Tsuwa mentioned sun wanting $$$$$$$ to make a "custom patch"
<1> heh
<3> dude
<1> anything to help the share price :)
<3> m$ isn't releasing a dst patch for 2000
<3> unless you give $$$
<0> yeah
<0> i'm really not too worried about it
<0> i mean, it's just a local timezone rendering issue, and most stuff gets done in UTC anyways...
<3> dunno, we still have a lot of 2000
<2> we aren't even patching
<2> localtime on all the machines is utc
<0> makes things simple
<4> I have ntp & it just pushed out the change.
<1> humm that's still problematic
<1> your time will always fail during dst
<0> ntp syncs system time
<0> not localtime
<3> right
<3> it's not intuitive for people
<4> well I am going to patch it before the april change, but the fall change didn't cause half the trouble I thought it might, & I only had to change time on one box.
<3> it changes in march?
<3> I think april is too late
<4> hmm march then
<4> either way, like I said I didn't have to update much this past fall.
<4> just one box I did by hand.
<5> should i leave my job and go to cisco for 15/hr more
<6> hehe
<6> it all depends on current job
<6> and your own ambitions
<7> http://www.linuxguitar.org/
<8> Title: Linux Guitar Project
<9> nice
<7> http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2007/US/02/01/boston.bombscare/vt1.cartoon.scare.ap.jpg
<7> OMG TAIRISTS
<9> RockShox: are you hourly?
<8> http://urlx.org/i.a.cnn.net/c8f83
<9> i think you should leave your job and come take my job
<5> not currently
<0> march 11
<9> so the +15/hr thing is just a calculation you did
<0> is the new cut-in date
<5> yes
<7> http://digg.com/tech_news/Bill_Gates_Vista_is_so_secure_it_could_run_life_support_systems
<7> ROFL
<8> Title: Digg - Bill Gates: Vista is so secure it could run life support systems.
<8> http://urlx.org/digg.com/a1c27
<9> did he actually get quoted?
<1> He was basically setup
<1> with that comment
<1> Journalist: Let.s imagine a hospital where life support systems are running Vista. Would you trust it with your life?
<1> What do you really expect him to say ?
<3> wow
<3> so our contract DBA
<3> asked why I am suggested we need to upgrade/patch/fix/work-around the 100 jvms running on the db/app box
<3> s/suggested/stated/
<7> "I am stated"
<3> arp
<3> you get my point
<7> kae
<3> pick your own nose, not my words
<3> anyhow
<7> okay, so what did you tell him
<7> kae you corrected yourself
<3> I have the urge to strangle him
<7> so I was just letting you know you werent done correcting
<3> I don't care
<3> I've moved on
<7> I mean you went through the trouble to correct it into soemthing still incorrect.
<7> had you not done that, I wouldnt have said anything at all.
<7> I'm not known for grammar nazi'ing
<9> http://www.break.com/index/bridal_party_dances_to_thriller_at_reception.html
<8> Title: Break.com - Funny Pics, Hot Chicks, & Cool Flicks
<8> http://urlx.org/break.com/e7865
<10> kae talks **** most of the time anyway
<10> so it can be difficult to tell
<9> with a name like kae, what do you expect
<7> kae, finish the story, so he asked, how did it end.
<10> "did he finish in the *** or mouth?"
<1> grouphug
<8> <1> i hate australians, they are so up themselves, they think they're top ****, i love english people, im english. (630360505)
<6> pfft
<9> grouphug
<8> <9> i dont think i've ever stopped loving him. even when i was with that other guy. i think i spent about a tenth of my life thinking about him. and my heart breaks knowing that he will never ever love me the same. thank goodness i am moving far far far and away. why the hell did we break up in the first place. (218642730)
<6> i know plenty of brits that are stuck up bastids
<5> grouphug
<8> <5> I had group *** with my boyfriend, who I am madly in love with, and another couple I don't know. We were all on pills and had drunk a lot, and to be honest it was crap. But I put on a show, pretended I was into it, to turn the guys on and convince myself I was too. I think the other girl was faking too. Why do women do that? I thought I was just trying something new, it'd be experimental and fun. I did it for my [-snip-] (703468565)
<5> thats hot
<11> why do women do that? she did it; shouldnt sh eknow
<12> *cosmos* hahah yeaha i hacked you *** and now you want to trys more??!
<3> you got haxxed?
<12> i guess
<12> i think he means collided
<9> grouphug
<8> <9> im bored at work.. but my confession is that im still in love with my ex.. we broke up a year ago.. but i still love him heaps and wish that we could get back together soon... we are giving each other space we have both been with other people but we were still sleeping with each other throughout the whole year!!! i think we are still in love with each other but we just ddnt get along when we were together! (749124198)
<9> ex ***
<3> hey
<3> any of you kids use datadomains and netapps?
<3> and netbackup?
<4> hey kae
<3> yo, G
<5> i use netbackup and datadomains
<4> not me...
<3> rox, do you have netapps tho?
<5> somewhere
<5> but i dont use them
<5> why whats your point
<3> oh
<5> 2 out of 3 isnt good enough for you
<3> well, we're wondering if we should use a netapp r200 instead of datadomains for nearline storage for backups
<5> dont use datadomains for anything
<5> especially nearline
<5> they are for backups
<3> well
<3> staging for backups
<3> that's really what I meant
<3> as the r200 also does near-line
<5> do you backup more than 5tb?
<12> the R200 is a godsend for nearline :)
<3> we will be
<5> well then managing dds is a pain in the ***
<5> because you can only fit 5tb on one
<5> so now you need multiple storage groups and split up the policies and clients
<5> and the same client always has to go to the same dd
<5> or you lose the benefits of their compression
<5> i have 12 of the damn things
<3> well, we've got two DDs, one unused, and one idea is to dedicate one DD to the netapp
<3> but the netapp will eventually be pushing more than 5tb
<3> we're going to go with 22TB raw for starters
<3> and we've got under 5TB of data on our existing arrays which will get migrated/copied over
<5> so you need multiple policies for a single client
<3> and if there's some way to leverage snapshots such that we're actually backing up less data
<5> and split up the netapp by filesystems
<5> but just dont have a single fs over 5tb
<3> that's not going to happen
<5> spashots dont make your data smaller
<5> even if the fs doesnt grow that large its a lot of work to split it up
<5> management overhead
<3> yea, I'm not worried about it
<12> use snapvaults to the R200
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